First outkast review

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dwayne

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Jul 5, 2003
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Just downloaded it and pretty blown away. double album, speakerboxxx and the love below.

PS Dave the gaffer give it a listen u might like??



Speakerboxxx



Intro - crazy, djing the word speakerboxxx being sung, techno crunk


Ghetto Musick- you know what it sounds like, I love it.
Unhappy- nice mellow nodder, you can ride out to this. about happiness, somewhat introspective


Bowtie - produced by Big Boi - definite Funkadelic/James Brown influence, this bridge is crazy, Sleepy Brown represents. your parents would get down to this.


The Way You Move- my first time hearing it, whne the hook kicks in its a thumbs up. but again, you know what it sounds like. a natural progression from so fresh, so clean.


The Rooster- from the start, you know its going to be some shit. down south hard hitting funk. Carl Mo (the producer) is nasty. Wait until this is performed live with the horns. this is fresh hip-hop in 2003 without sounding like anything else.


Bust- this has a rock sound to it. a bridge or hook from cee-lo would have been perfect. You'd swear he was a part of the background chorus, but his name isnt in the credits. Killer Mike comes hard


War - just when you think its one song, it changes. It starts off normal then gets crazy. The hook is being sung way in the back with dj-ing. He was rapping political, it ends suddenly but he killed it while he was rapping


Church - if church was this much fun I'd go every sunday. produced by dre, when i heard this i thought i was ready for his album. this has a little message, the ending proves dre is a genius


Bamboo (interlude) Pharcyde did it and so did J-Live and Count
Bass D, I'll let you take a stab at what it involves.


Tomb of The Boom - down south typical hip-hop track, but its good. when i say typical you couldnt imagine Ludacris on the rest of the album, but he's on here. It doesnt suck at all, butits no experimental dream.


E-Mac (interlude) someone from texas rhyming slowed down or screwed up as they putit


Knowing - takes me back to Atliens, think "and the beat goes on" from the dungeon family lp or "wheels of steel", spits some more common knowledge


Flip Flop Rock - I only heard this once before, the performances are good. The hook is simple, I guess its effective. "niggas wanna hijack the flyness, im on another plane" - jay-z. I like how it fades out at the end.


Interlude - spoken word about the duet and their longevity, either Big Rube's voice sped up or a female


Reset- Big Boi produced this, he's nice on the boards, he's spitting a message. Its dark but the keys are light. I cant see how Dre couldnt rap on these tracks. Cee-lo did good but we've heard better.


D-boi (interlude) slight comedy, random somebody speaking about being a real hustler.


Last Call - this might in some clubs down south this fall, Lil Jon and The Eastside Boyz accentuate the hook. Dre produced this too. this proves he can still make Outkast hip-hop.


Bowtie (Postlude)- this is funkadelic homage



The love below

Intro - Beautiful piano playing and singing. But you really start thinking he's lost his mind.

Love Hater - oh shit. yeah he's lost it but this is incredible jazz lounge music. you arent ready, this is out of hip-hop's league.

God (Interlude) - yeah he's lost his mind but I love it. soeaking to God over a harp playing

Happy Valentines Day - this is a hip-hop beat, I've said this enough by now but he's lost it. speaking and singing back and forth. I swear anything he does will sound fly, rapping or not. He's cupid in this song, the bridge is nice. he does rhyme at the end, I need some of whatever influenced this. The closing is marvelous

Spread - wait until this hits down south strip clubs, okay he rhymes on this too and he goes off. the piano and trumpet solos are ill. album of the year, I'm calling it

where are my panties? - this proves, all that creative artist rhetoric aside, this man is a pimp at heart.

Prototype - Pharrell better step it the f*** up for this NERD album coming up. This isnt so much crazy as it is beautiful. I hope my future son dances face to face to this at his prom. I can see why dre isnt touring with this album.

she lives in my lap- you've heard it, i love it.

Hey Ya - my first time hearing it. this was a stretch, he's on his
own shit, its different but it would have been a hit in the 60's

Roses - the song that blew big boi away. I'll say this much, its clever and pretty incredible. I've felt this way before and kind of still do sometimes. It sounds like Big Boi rapping on this but he isnt credited. Prince couldnt come up with this today. Money went through some shit to inspire music like this. Controversial but you'll love it

Good Day, Good Sir (interlude) he's lost his mind, Kool Keith would love this

Behold A Lady - has more of a grown message, more of a "hip-hop" sound, funky. He could have rapped on this.

Pink & Blue - When it starts you have to prepare yourself for madness. Prince influenced this. "Funky in a Claire Huxtable type way". The end is beautiful, this is better than hip-hop, this is music.

Love In War - he's going far with the vocals. the drums and the music clash but it shows "hip-hop" has no boundaries

She's Alive - I hear MF Doom if he produced a slow song for Andre3000 written by Michael Jackson. (our very own) Science Fiction will either love or hate this one. I cant wait to hear dre talk about this one.

Dracula's Wedding- funky, his muffled vocals contrasting Kelis' clarity is crazy. "plus i make great peanut butter and jelly sandwiches" this is somewhat of a neptunes knockoff but a good one
"my favorite things" over super speed drums. not innovative (unless it spawns a new genre, but its certainly creative)


Take Off Your Cool - this is the norah jones collab. guitar based, no drums. he can come up with a decent melody on guitar. this is the furthest departure from hip-hop thus far.


Vibrate - jazz mixed with a turntable reverb (?), the "paul revere" type sound. spoken word at the end by dre



A Life In The Day of Benjamin Andre (incomplete) - for all of you who thought he couldnt rap anymore. I want to learn this verbatim. rhyme of the year, he covers it all. mentions a singer who has an album coming out a week before his by name.




This gets a certified 10. It succeeded everywhere Phrenology and Electric Circus failed because while all 3 acts said "f*** hip-hop", the roots and common still tried to make hip-hop and Dre just tried to make heartfelt music. I respect this because he tried something new and he definitely succeeded in making black music that wasnt what we had come to expect. I want him to abandon the hip-hop sound, make more jazz/classical based music, rap on the next "Outkast" album and put out more solo music like this.
 
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dwayne

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Jul 5, 2003
16,905
London
cannot let this drop this album(s) is gonna be MASSIVE!!!


...well bigger and much better than Dizzie anyway


and just to prove dwaynester knows whats hot.....Norah motherfucking Jones is on this album!!
 
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Wozza

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Jul 6, 2003
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Muzik (RIP) mag liked it very much too. And Mojo. And Q.

Nice company you're keeping there Dwayne. Guess you're getting old.
 


dwayne

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Jul 5, 2003
16,905
London
yes I have eclectic taste.

I like Outkast but I also like project pat who is known for producing classics like "f*** a bitch"

with the chorus

"f*** a bitch" (x5)

....now that's for the kids.

As for Q,mojo, Kerrang,raw power, the Guardian, the Independent, knitters weekly....they have to like it, Outkast are hipsters, they wear wacky hippy clothing and are not threatening like other more "aggressive" black'uns.:blush:
 
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dwayne

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generally "the love below disc is not gettinga ssmuch love.

Speakerboxxx

Speakerboxx tunes is right in with a Bounce-styled intro before we fly right into the franticly paced "GhettoMusick". Andre lends his vocal talents to "GhettoMusick" and it reminds me a lot of B.O.B. I gotta say the classic R&B break in the middle threw me for a minute when I first heard it. Big Boi rips it when he gets on the mic though. I like this track MUCH more than I did previously. "Unhappy" features a nice head nodding, laid back track with some dope MCing from Kast (yes, both of em).
"Bowtie" features the first of many guests on the disc. Jazze Pha adds a nice dimension to the track and Outkast is dope over a nice jazz-laced beat. "The Way You Move" is a nice use of a classic beat, not a great track overall but nothing wrong with it. "The Rooster" is a head nodding track for sure and Big Boi brings it on the mic. Perfect mix of crazy instrumentation and dope rhymes. "Bust" is not exactly my thing, since I don't really love Killer Mike... but it's a solid track with okay production.
"War" is an okay track that feels like it's missing something, but it's also not actively bad and it's short. "Church" is a catchy track that I dug right away. Nice flow over an interesting beat. "Tomb Of The Boom" brings a more typical southern style to the album. The guests don't bring a lot to the table here in my eyes, this track doesn't feel like it belongs.
"Knowing" reunites both Kast members on another track, and it reminds me why I wish they would've done a conventional album. Great chemistry. "Flip Flop Rock" was my favorite song to leak before the album and is still probably my favorite on the whole double disc. Dope rhymes abound on this track. "Reset" features a couple of Goodie Mob members, Khujo and Cee-Lo. The track is a nice laid back change of tempo and both guests compliment Big Boi nicely. "Last Call" is a posse cut, and features a guy I don't really care for (namely Lil Jon)
but the production is different, and overall it's not a bad track.



The Love Below


Musically beautiful introduction. Exactly the kind of thing I was expecting from Dre (off the wall, creative as hell, but with singing ). We shift quickly from soft piano to a swingin' rock/jazz track. Unfortunately we also have more singing. "Happy Valentines Day" is a mix of musical styles.. a dope production switch about 3+ minutes in... and Dre's rapping He drops about a minute worth on the end of this joint and sounds damn good on it. "Spread" incorperates some crazy organ as the backbone. Another musical masterpiece with limited rhyming.
"Prototype" slows the pace down with a funky drum-based beat, definitely a nice track to kick back to despite the lack of rhyming. "She Lives In My Lap" was one of the songs I disliked before the LP leaked. Musically to me it's brilliant, but Rosario Dawson singing is not what I look for on a Kast lp. "Hey Ya" grew on me a lot as I listened. The production is nice and uptempo and Andre singing doesn't seem out of place. The trend of great production continues to "Roses" but as is the theme of my beef with this half of the double disc, why not rhyme over this?
"Behold A Lady" is one of the few tracks that don't appeal to me musically. "Pink and Blue" starts off promising but falls into a rut once the songs actual beat drops in. Dre's singing is just not the kind of thing that can carry a song. "Love In War" is nothing that stands out, it's pretty similar to a few other songs with Andre singing over a pretty generic beat.
"She's Alive" continues Andre's trip to the outer rim of lord only knows what. The production is decent but the vocals are somewhat lacking in my opinion. "Dracula's Wedding" brings back the expected Outkast funk to this disc. Unfortunately it didn't bring Andre with it. It's an enjoyable song despite Andre's decision to sing on it. "My Favorite Things" hosts a frenetic paced drum track around which a nice jazzy track is built. It's also a complete instrumental, no vocals to speak of... take that as good or bad.
The Norah Jones collaboration is another stellar musical creation without much in the way of vocals. "Vibrate" is an okay song, but it doesn't really stand out musically to me and Andre is really beginning to sound the same after a few listens to these joints. "A Day In The Life of Benjamin Andre" actually has rapping on it... which is a nice change. The rhymes are dope if not mindblowingly good. I just enjoy listening to him rhyme though, so I'll like it more often than not... It's just too little too late for this disc and me.


Summary of Speakerboxxx
I enjoyed this disc basically end to end. A nice variety in production and dope rhyming from Big Boi throughout really make this disc solid. Andre's appearances only serve to make me wish for a straight up Outkast album, because the two still show amazing chemistry. I was wondering what Big Boi would bring to the table on his own and I was quite impressed.


Summary of The Love Below
All in all, I was really disappointed here. Musically it's brilliant more often than not, but from a vocal standpoint most of it grows stale before it grows on you. If he would've diversified more between singing and MCing, i think the album would've been better as a result. We all knew Andre would push the envelope but I was disappointed to see that he basically avoided MCing altogether on his own disc in order to become something of a neo-soul/blues singer.


Speakerboxxx Rating: 8/10
The Love Below Rating: 5/10
Overall: 6.5/10
 






bhaexpress

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Jul 7, 2003
27,627
Kent
Fine if you like that sort of thing but those of us who prefer music will regard this as more typical (c)rap. Yes, my step son downloded some of it so I have heard it and frankly find it duller than a weekend in Pevensey.
 


dwayne

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Jul 5, 2003
16,905
London
I would hardly call outkast dull!!

In fact Bombs Over Baghdad is probably the most undull song of all time!!
 




tinx

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Jul 6, 2003
9,198
Horsham Town
I downloaded that last night, not got round to listening to it yet, too into the new dido album which is also f***ing brilliant.

Also grabbed the new travis album which sounds exactly like th elast travis album in case anyone is interested.
 


dwayne

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Jul 5, 2003
16,905
London
....I'm off to work with my outkast double cd and Philips expanium MP3 cd player!! ahh the joys of spring
 








CHAPPERS

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Jul 5, 2003
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Outkast are good. I like them.

Pissed at work at 9 in the morning, anything better? I think not.
 


tinx

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Jul 6, 2003
9,198
Horsham Town
ChapmansThe Saviour said:
Outkast are good. I like them.

Pissed at work at 9 in the morning, anything better? I think not.


Oh dear, I expect we'll be getting some real crap posted by you today then......


FOr a change of course. :)
 








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