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CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
45,304
Can you please clear up one thing.

If no other sites are deemed suitable we can 100% build at Falmer without question.

YES or NO.

Cheers,

M
 




In my opinion .... If no other sites are proved to be suitable and available, Prescott has no option but to grant final permission for the stadium to be built at Falmer.

It would be truly perverse to say that other issues were relevant. If they were, he would have had to say NO this morning.
 




Marc

New member
Jul 6, 2003
25,267
this will go one of two ways if all other sites are rejected:

a) "OK you can have Falmer" no problem

b) "After consideration it is not best to build at Falmer, please wait for land to free up elsewhere or find an alternative not currently viewed" gulp!

thats how I see it, cant tell you which option but my minds very 50/50 right now
 


Lammy

Registered Abuser
Oct 1, 2003
7,581
Newhaven/Lewes/Atlanta
CrabtreeBHA said:
this will go one of two ways if all other sites are rejected:

a) "OK you can have Falmer" no problem

b) "After consideration it is not best to build at Falmer, please wait for land to free up elsewhere or find an alternative not currently viewed" gulp!

thats how I see it, cant tell you which option but my minds very 50/50 right now

The way I see it it will go one of two ways;

1) The other sites area a mochary of a shame you may build at Falmer.

2) Hang on we've found a better site than Falmer, go and build there!

win win.

The only drawback with 2) is the added cost and time added. But I don't think it is very likely do you?
 




SK1NT

Well-known member
Sep 9, 2003
8,766
Thames Ditton
but we've already shown that the other sites are not viable. So can we just send them the same paper work?


second: is it purely prescotts decision?if so why does it matter whoelse says no to falmer.
 


Marc

New member
Jul 6, 2003
25,267
brighton_b0y said:
but we've already shown that the other sites are not viable. So can we just send them the same paper work?


second: is it purely prescotts decision?if so why does it matter whoelse says no to falmer.
As Easy has asked in another thread, is the "other viable sites" being looked at just by the club/nimbys/lewes or an independant person/s?
 


Ex Shelton Seagull

New member
Jul 7, 2003
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Block G, Row F, Seat 175
Ther are 4 requirements for building on an AONB. This enquiry is only concerned with 1 requirement, that Falmer is the ONLY available site. If the stadium wasn't in the national interest or wouldn't bring any social and economic benefits then the application would have been rejected out-right today. No pissing about waiting until JP might get a new cabinet post or waiting until the conference is over so they won't have a few people booing them, they would have just turned down and told us to f*ck off.

I'm certain that the 7 sites that have been suggested will be rejected if you use the requirements set out in the DPM's letter. If someone can find in 4-5 months a brand new site, in Brighton or Hove, that can fit a 22,000 stadium and coach park without causing any environmental impacts, i'd be fairly amazed.
 






CrabtreeBHA said:
this will go one of two ways if all other sites are rejected:

a) "OK you can have Falmer" no problem

b) "After consideration it is not best to build at Falmer, please wait for land to free up elsewhere or find an alternative not currently viewed" gulp!

thats how I see it, cant tell you which option but my minds very 50/50 right now

The remit of the inquiry is Falmer only - Prescott cannot say you're not having Falmer but have a further Inquiry on the other sites. The only reason for looking again at the other sites is in relation to Falmer. They could not get away with the extra expense of extending the inquiry if the answer is No anyway. As I see it, if the other sites are ruled out then it must be Yes to Falmer.
 


ditchy

a man with a sound track record as a source of qua
Jul 8, 2003
5,277
brighton
CrabtreeBHA said:
this will go one of two ways if all other sites are rejected:

a) "OK you can have Falmer" no problem

b) "After consideration it is not best to build at Falmer, please wait for land to free up elsewhere or find an alternative not currently viewed" gulp!

thats how I see it, cant tell you which option but my minds very 50/50 right now

exactly Crabbers !!
 




Behind Enemy Lines

Well-known member
Jul 18, 2003
5,057
London
Lord Bracknell said:
In my opinion .... If no other sites are proved to be suitable and available, Prescott has no option but to grant final permission for the stadium to be built at Falmer.


But why Lord B? The Inspector said we couldn't build there.. not enough room etc. We know he's wrong but he's the official man. I'm sorry to be the voice of doubt but Prescott could easily deny us permission. And he said nothing about us accepting the principle of the club having to have a new stadium did he? So I can't see what you're optimism is based on...?

The challenge now is to re-think the evidence or how we present the evidence for re-selling Falmer as the only site AND accordingly, to try to persuade the Inquiry Part II that the other sites are not viable because obviously the club, for whatever reason, failed to do that last time round.

Here we go again.
 




Sneaky George said:
Lord Bracknell said:
In my opinion .... If no other sites are proved to be suitable and available, Prescott has no option but to grant final permission for the stadium to be built at Falmer.


But why Lord B? The Inspector said we couldn't build there.. not enough room etc. We know he's wrong but he's the official man. I'm sorry to be the voice of doubt but Prescott could easily deny us permission. And he said nothing about us accepting the principle of the club having to have a new stadium did he? So I can't see what you're optimism is based on...?

The challenge now is to re-think the evidence or how we present the evidence for re-selling Falmer as the only site AND accordingly, to try to persuade the Inquiry Part II that the other sites are not viable because obviously the club, for whatever reason, failed to do that last time round.



The tone of the letter would suggest that JP is not convinced that the Planning Inspectors reccomendation is satisfactory and therefore is looking to protect HIS decision.

"Yes I have noted the Planning Inspetcors reports, but on all the evidence that I have considered, including that of the inspectors, the enquiries and the interested parties, i am satisfied that this project satisfies the criteria set and am pleased to give my consent" or something like it
 


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