[Albion] Facundo Buonanotte - SIGNED for 1.8 billion pesos

[Knocky's Nose]

I'm not convinced he should be in the first team right now. Personally I'd loan him to a Championship club to rough him up a bit, then bring him back and smooth him off.

I know he's not a wooden carving btw, but you get my drift.

 

[Zeberdi]

oh dear - did you not see the match on Sunday? Or at least read the live blog/ match reports?

A great effort on goal and the assist

BBC rated him above Gross, Veltman, Dahoud and Beleba - and only 0.05 below Mitoma

It was his best performance of the season (and I said that after the Ajax game at home too - so he is continuing to improve exponentially (as I said he was then!)

 

[Weststander]

You are Harry Redknapp and I claim my five pounds.

With Andy Townsend, they cornered the market on sh1t cliches.

https://www.indy100.com/sport/your-...worst-commentator-cliches-in-football-7276831

 

[Washie]

I thought him coming off for Mitoma and swapping Adingra to the right is what screwed us in the second half

 

[slimes]

Played really well Sunday..
Tactical sub because of yellow..

 

[Milano]

Did you see our bench on Sunday? It was practically a creche. Where he is, he will get valuable experience both with us and Argentina.

Read my last sentence.

 

[Zeberdi]

He just won't be this sort of player.

In this trajectory he could get to the style and level of MacAllister in 5 or 6 years. Lack of pace hasn't done him too much harm

He will get there earlier than MacAllister did - he is better than Mackie was at 18 years too - his lack of pace is what makes him a CAM not a winger - that and his stop/start acceleration, balance and dribbling.

 

[Milano]

He will get there earlier than MacAllister did - he is better than Mackie was at 18 years too - his lack of pace is what makes him a CAM not a winger - that and his stop/start acceleration, balance and dribbling.

I’m not disagreeing. I just hope that he’s not had his confidence destroyed before then. He should be out on loan at a team where he’d play in that position 3 games out of 4 and have more than a fleeting impact, because he has the potential to be excellent but he isn’t YET, and I don’t think 45 mins here and there mainly out of position is helping much, because from my memory he impacted the game TWICE in 45 minutes, the rest of the time he was anonymous and that’s against one of the worst 3 teams in the division.

Had we not had these injuries then he wouldn’t be in the match day squad anyway, and I do not believe that the club would have expected to have so many injuries at once so I’m not sure what the plan for him was this season?

 

[Jaxie]

Personally think he’ll be equivalent to last seasons Mac Allister/Caicedo impact. Maybe next season, maybe even towards the end of this season. Encisos early appearances last season hardly set the world alight and then look what happened.

Just curious, those that would rather he went out on loan what club would you realistically hope he go to?

 

[dazzer6666]

Think he’ll grow into the Lallana role (minus the injuries hopefully). Similar kind of player.

 

[BluesRockDJ]

I'm not convinced he should be in the first team right now. Personally I'd loan him to a Championship club to rough him up a bit, then bring him back and smooth him off.

I know he's not a wooden carving btw, but you get my drift.

Out of interest, have you seen our current injuries list ?

 

[Milano]

Personally think he’ll be equivalent to last seasons Mac Allister/Caicedo impact. Maybe next season, maybe even towards the end of this season. Encisos early appearances last season hardly set the world alight and then look what happened.

Just curious, those that would rather he went out on loan what club would you realistically hope he go to?

That’s not my job to know, the club pay pros six figure salaries to work that one out. Somewhere he’d play 70%+ of matches and in his strongest position. If he’s that good then they’ll be ‘top 6’ championship or French/Dutch/Belgium clubs queuing up.

 

[Milano]

Out of interest, have you seen our current injuries list ?

Do you believe that the current injury list is expected or predicted?

 

[BluesRockDJ]

Do you believe that the current injury list is expected or predicted?

Sorry ?

 

[Zeberdi]

I’m not disagreeing. I just hope that he’s not had his confidence destroyed before then.

I think playing him in a central attacking position recently has actually boosted his confidence - it would help too if the fans really get behind him - I made a bit of a tlt of myself when he came on at the Ajax game by giving him an excessively loud cheer - to the bemusement of everyone around me but he deserves it - he’s no slouch and works hard.

I agree injuries (March and Danny in particular obviously) has given an opportunity to play more minutes (as has Europe) but you could argue that is the case for most young players coming into the squad with such a high level of players - they have all had to fight for a spot - last season it was Gilmour at the end of the tongue lashings and not getting games in, look how he has improved in 12 months (although still lacking in gravitas and strength imo) - I don’t think a loan away from Brighton would have been the best thing for Facu personally (or Gilmour because he needed to settle with a club long term despite people baying for him to go on loan), he doesn’t strike me as a particularly outgoing character who can adapt easily around strangers and if he is to play for us, he needs to learn RDZs DNA at this stage of his development especially if he is going to grow into MacAllisters CAM/CMF role - I think he can develop better under RDZ at this stage of his career and so far his football is coming along fine. With a youngsters, it’s developing physically too, to cope with competing for 90 mins at the level PL matches demand - that can take a few seasons - he is now playing ‘whole’ halves instead of the 10-15 minutes he was doing last season so it’s going in the right direction.

So many fans seem to think ‘going out on loan’ is the default position for any player still developing- it’s not - it has to be a positive step forward not something we do to players because they are not good enough to play 90 mins every week yet.

 

[Jaxie]

That’s not my job to know, the club pay pros six figure salaries to work that one out. Somewhere he’d play 70%+ of matches and in his strongest position. If he’s that good then they’ll be ‘top 6’ championship or French/Dutch/Belgium clubs queuing up.

If that’s the case re. the pros on six figure salaries, presumably that means its better for everyone that he stays?

 

[Weststander]

Out of interest, have you seen our current injuries list ?

This.

With our injury list, we need to retain our entire squad.

 

[Milano]

Sorry ?

This injury situation we find our selves in is excessive, it’s not ‘normal’ or predicted. If it weren’t for this situation he wouldn’t even be getting the minutes that he currently is getting and IMO opinion he is not quite ready for yet. So if it’s not a predicted situation then it was not part of the ‘plan’ for him to play as much as he is, therefore a loan would have been the better option OR the coaches just wanted him around the squad this season.

 

[Milano]

This.

With our injury list, we need to retain our entire squad.

That’s a completely different point. This thread is discussing if Faco is ready for the first team NOW or not? My opinion is no he’s not, not yet.
The current injury situation is extreme and even by Albion standards was unpredictable.

 

[Weststander]

That’s a completely different point. This thread is discussing if Faco is ready for the first team NOW or not? My opinion is no he’s not, not yet.
The current injury situation is extreme and even by Albion standards was unpredictable.

I was responding to the general arguments to and fro that he needs to go out on loan.