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Lammy

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Oct 1, 2003
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What the hell is the difference between 'effect' and 'affect'?
 






Scotty Mac

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Jul 13, 2003
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is there a difference? i thought one was the american spelling and one british
 


Lammy

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Digweeds Trousers said:
Effect - Outcome - What will be the effect physically of you punching my lights out

Affect - Is my behaviour going to affect your decision to punch my lights out

I think

Well that's what I thought but it starts getting complicated when you compare effecting with affecting... ?!?!?
 


Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
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Effect as a verb means to enable

Mark McGhee wanted to bring some new players into the side and effected the changes immediately.

To affect means to have an influence on.

The new players were affected by the crowd noise.

Next week: compliment and complement
 
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Yorkie

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Jul 5, 2003
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Are you effective at work? - Are you able to do the work?

Have you been affected by redundancy? Has losing your job influenced your life?
 


Scotty Mac

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i see - effective is an effect of something
and affective is when something effects you
 


itszamora

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Sep 21, 2003
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Scotty M said:
i see - effective is an effect of something
and affective is when something effects you

NO! Something cannot 'effect' you. It 'affects' you - as Yorkie put it so well this means it has influenced you in some way.

And effect(ive) relates to how well something or someone does something.

I didn't get an A in English A level for nothing I tell you:)
 




Gritt23

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Jul 7, 2003
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Anyway, I'm not a woman, and I've been watching football for over 25 years, but I can't understand the offside rule these days. Can someone try explaining it to me?
 




What's the confusion? Two completely different words that mean different things.

Still, I know plenty of jounalists who still get it wrong :jester:

The week after: principle and principal, license and licence
 












Tooting Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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Can't you 'affect' an injury, meaning to fake...(who said Leon...). Presumably affectation comes from that too, meaning those that have them are total phonies.
 




Scotty Mac

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samparish said:
NO! Something cannot 'effect' you. It 'affects' you - as Yorkie put it so well this means it has influenced you in some way.

And effect(ive) relates to how well something or someone does something.

I didn't get an A in English A level for nothing I tell you:)

i got an a in english gcse and i still don't understand! my brain hurts
 


Everest

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Jul 5, 2003
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Coming soon, wanker & Archer.

(no difference)
 






Perry's Tracksuit Bottoms

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From the OED....

affect, v.1

1. trans. To aim at, aspire to, or make for; to seek to obtain or attain. a. a thing. Obs.

b. to do a thing.

2. To be drawn to, have affection or liking for; to take to, be fond of, show preference for; to fancy, like, or love. a. a person. arch. or ? Obs.

b. a thing. arch.

c. a thing touching one's own practice: To like to practise, use, wear, or frequent.

d. to do a thing. ? Obs.

e. absol. To incline or like. Obs.

3. Of animals and plants: To frequent naturally or habitually, to haunt, to inhabit.

4. Of things: To have or display a natural tendency toward, to tend to assume or put on.

5. To show ostentatiously a liking for; to make an ostentatious use or display of; to take upon oneself artificially or for effect, to assume.

b. To assume the character of (a person).

c. with inf.: To ‘profess,’ take upon one.

Hence, by imperceptible gradations,

6. a. To put on a pretence of; to assume a false appearance of, to counterfeit or pretend.

b. with inf. (or gerund).

7. absol. To assume artificial or pretended manners; to put on airs. Obs. rare.


affect, v.2

1. To attack, lay hold of, act upon contagiously, or attaint (as, or after the manner of, a disease). Rare in the active voice in earlier usage.

2. To attaint with a crime or offence: ‘a phrase merely juridical.’ J. Obs.

3. To lay hold of, impress, or act upon (in mind or feelings); to influence, move, touch.

4. To make a material impression on; to act upon, influence, move, touch, or have an effect on.

5. To apply specially; to assign, to allot; to attribute. (Only in passive voice, as in mod.Fr., though in 17th c. Fr. active, as in L.)





effect, n.

1. a. Something accomplished, caused, or produced; a result, consequence. Correlative with CAUSE.

b. collective and abstr. Results in general; the quality of producing a result, efficacy. Phrases, with effect, of no (none) effect.

c. Mechanics. The amount of work done in a given time. useful effect: the net result, after making deductions for loss from friction, etc.

d. Any of various phenomena of physical science, e.g. those connected with electric currents, usually named after the first discoverer or describer of the appearance. See also DOPPLER, EINSTEIN, FARADAY, ZEEMAN.

e. Psychol. (See quots.)

2. a. A contemplated result, a purpose; chiefly in phrases, to this or that effect, to the effect that (obs.). b. In the same phrases: Purport; drift, tenor, essential significance.

3. a. An outward manifestation, sign, token, symptom; an appearance, phenomenon. Obs.

b. A (pleasing or remarkable) combination of colour or form in a picture, a landscape, etc. Also of music (see also quot. 1938). Cf. 6.

c. (Cf. STAGE-effect, sound-effect.) Now usu. in pl.: the various aids and contrivances (appropriate ‘noises off’, lighting, etc.) used to accompany and vivify the production of plays, films, or broadcasts. Also attrib., as in effects studio, microphone, etc.

4. a. Something which is attained or acquired by an action. Obs.

b. pl. ‘Goods and chattels’, movable property. personal effects: personal luggage as distinguished from merchandise, etc. Also with wider meaning in phrase no effects: written by bankers on dishonoured cheques when the drawer has no funds in the bank; also, to leave no effects: to leave nothing for one's heirs.

5. a. Operative influence; a mode or degree of operation on an object.

b. The state or fact of being operative. to give effect to: to render operative. to take effect: to become operative: to prove successful; (of a law, an agreement, etc.) to come into force (from a certain date).

6. The impression produced on a beholder, hearer, or reader, esp. by a work of art or literature; sometimes = general effect, the impression produced by a picture, building, etc., viewed as a whole. for effect: for the sake of creating a telling impression on the minds of spectators or hearers.

7. a. Accomplishment, fulfilment. Now only in phrases, to bring to effect, carry into effect: to accomplish, bring to a successful issue; to put into effect: to accomplish, to realize.

b. Practical reality, fact, as opposed to name or appearance: see 8. Obs.

8. in effect: formerly = in fact, in reality, opposed to in show, in words. In mod. use, virtually, substantially, so far as the result is concerned (see senses 1, 2).

9. [After Fr. effet.] (See quot.)




Hope that clears things up.
 


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