[Politics] Donald Trump 2024

[raymondo]

Apologies if fixtures:

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Thank you for correcting my spelling, I hadn’t noticed the typo so stand corrected - Yes, the attribution is highly suspect and probably an internet version of Chinese whispers but every day is a school day …

”The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing“

Aunt Augusta?

 

[Zeberdi]

Aunt Augusta?

Uncle Soccer by all accounts!

 

[Greg Bobkin]

That is the thing that there isn't sometimes enough made of. He's PROPERLY weird. Like Michael Jackson levels of weird.

Once he dies, we'll look back and wonder how someone who looked and spoke like that in the public eye was real. Such an oddball.

Totally agree – I've been saying this for years. In fact, I think that's partly why I'm so fascinated (if that's the right word) by him. Pretty much everything about him is odd. The way he talks (lies), walks, stands, drinks from a glass, smiles (don't think I've ever seen/heard him laugh), verbally abuses people.

He's a really odd dude.

 

[Badger Boy]

Colbert: I had an emotional flash how the dignity and trappings of that office could be abused over the next 4 years, were you having a similar feeling in that moment?
Obama: Yeah, yeah, it was a concern.
Colbert: And were those concerns borne out over the next 4 years?
Obama: Exceeded.

It's such an eloquent exchange to listen to at the very end of this segment of the interview but I really would recommend listening to the whole thing if you've not heard it before, or haven't listened for a while.

 

[Zeberdi]

Some of the dumbest and weirdest Trump moments - 2020

Did you know the Spanish Flu of 1917 “probably ended the Second World War”?

 

[Hugo Rune]

Someone has their eye on the Republican Presidential candidacy……..

Let’s get Trump terminated.

 

[Hotchilidog]

Someone has their eye on the Republican Presidential candidacy……..

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Let’s get Trump terminated.

Bizarrely Arnie would be a return to sanity for the Republicans, but sadly being born in Austria precludes him from running (man). Also politically compared to the rest of the party he's practically a communist.

 

[knocky1]

Bizarrely Arnie would be a return to sanity for the Republicans, but sadly being born in Austria precludes him from running (man). Also politically compared to the rest of the party he's practically a communist.

That didn't stop Obama. Born in a hut in Kenya and raised in Indonesia. He then got US aid money to go through college in the US. He later falsified his Birth Certificate to hide this and the fact he was born a Muslim.

 

[Zeberdi]

That didn't stop Obama. Born in a hut in Kenya and raised in Indonesia. He then got US aid money to go through college in the US. He later falsified his Birth Certificate to hide this and the fact he was born a Muslim.

FACT CHECK? - ‘Hilary started the birther movement’ and here we see ‘proof’ that Trump ‘finished it’

He’s utterly priceless

Edit - that’s a tongue in cheek post by the way to rebut @knocky1’s post- note the inverted commas ! (Sometimes I think my humour is missed on here …)

 

[Albion my Albion]

Obama might as well have been born on Mars the way the Republicans treat him. And of course there is no racist tone to it at all.

 

[Zeberdi]

“A clear and Present Danger”?

‘A revenge term’: what would another four years of Trump look like?

Opinion polls show the twice impeached, quadruply indicted ex-president narrowly leading Biden – and experts say ‘it would be a disaster for America’

www.theguardian.com

 

[nicko31]

“A clear and Present Danger”?

‘A revenge term’: what would another four years of Trump look like?

Opinion polls show the twice impeached, quadruply indicted ex-president narrowly leading Biden – and experts say ‘it would be a disaster for America’

www.theguardian.com

I really did think January 6 would be the day Trump went too far, I thought he'd be finished. But I was wrong.

 

[Zeberdi]

I really did think January 6 would be the day Trump went too far, I thought he'd be finished. But I was wrong.

It’s incredible that he wasn’t and a very worrying precedent - a pattern of coalescing far right power all over the world infiltrating the institutions of the State and a watering down of the constitutional principles upon which western liberal democracies were built. How he has run away with the GOP nomination race and some polls now even putting him ahead of Biden, is sheer madness.

The 2024 Polls Agree: Trump Has a Significant Lead Over Biden

Much could change in the next year, but right now Trump is ahead of Biden nationally and in most battleground states.

nymag.com

WAKE UP America FFS!! Wake up before it’s too late.

 

[raymondo]

 

[raymondo]

It’s incredible that he wasn’t and a very worrying precedent - a pattern of coalescing far right power all over the world infiltrating the institutions of the State and a watering down of the constitutional principles upon which western liberal democracies were built. How he has run away with the GOP nomination race and some polls now even putting him ahead of Biden, is sheer madness.

The 2024 Polls Agree: Trump Has a Significant Lead Over Biden

Much could change in the next year, but right now Trump is ahead of Biden nationally and in most battleground states.

nymag.com

WAKE UP America FFS!! Wake up before it’s too late.

Yep, I don't get it either. Are so many Americans afraid of the world that they don't want to deal with nuance, with debate, with contradictions, with difficulties...they just want a 'leader' that's arrogant, a bully, a lier, a denier... to shout at the world so they can hide behind their coat-tails and feel tough themselves?

 

[Albion my Albion]

Yep, I don't get it either. Are so many Americans afraid of the world that they don't want to deal with nuance, with debate, with contradictions, with difficulties...they just want a 'leader' that's arrogant, a bully, a lier, a denier... to shout at the world so they can hide behind their coat-tails and feel tough themselves?

Most of us don't want Trump it's just we do give power to minorities even when they back a despot.

 

[Zeberdi]

Yep, I don't get it either. Are so many Americans afraid of the world that they don't want to deal with nuance, with debate, with contradictions, with difficulties...they just want a 'leader' that's arrogant, a bully, a lier, a denier... to shout at the world so they can hide behind their coat-tails and feel tough themselves?

The Democrats are simply losing rural America and have been for years - 97% of America is rural with nearly 18% of the population living in rural America …and rural America is small thinking, predominately white (76%), (although the white population is declining and racial diversity is slowly increasing)

• 65% of rural voters view the Democratic Party unfavorably — including 48% who do so strongly.
• Among 21 issues tested, a rural voter’s desire for candidates to support securing the U.S.-Mexico border had the strongest correlation with negative views about the Democratic Party
• Only 23% of rural voters say the Democratic Party “cares more about my community” than the GOP
  
  
  ‘Over the past two years, inflation has hit rural households harder than the rest of the country. According to researchers at Iowa State University, rural households had to pay an extra $8,120 due to inflation in 2021 and 2022, more than the $7,480 paid by urban households in the same two years. Meanwhile, researchers at Cornell University estimate that 94% of the nation’s job growth since 2000 happened in urban counties. According to Pew Research, former President Donald Trump was able to win 65% of the rural vote in 2020, up from 59% in 2016, pulling more away than Mitt Romney did in 2012. Republican candidates raked in 69% of the rural vote in the 2022 midterms.’ (see link below)

Trump campaigns as the Candidate to challenge the perception that Washington/the Dems especially don’t care about the ‘little white man’ and the ‘little white man’ buys it because he is really voting with his wallet and out of fear of ‘replacement’ - a popularist candidate who promises to plug leaks in the border with Mexico, send the children born in the USA to immigrants (in the US illegally) back to the parents’ country of origin (and end automatic right of citizenship) -DACA will also be a huge issue in the Election (see wiki link) - a popularist candidate who promises to help rural people keep their guns, their farms and their neighbourhoods free of Mexico’s ‘rapists’, ‘criminals’ and ‘LGQBTs’ …but they are being deceived if they think the Republicans are on their side as the Republicans are putting a Bill proposal through the House that will slash support for rural farming communities:

House Democrats Highlight Republican Hypocrisy in Agriculture-Rural Development-FDA Funding Bill

During today’s House Appropriations Committee markup of the 2024 Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies funding bill, House Democrats highlighted how Republicans are slashing rural investments and critical food programs.

democrats-appropriations.house.gov

'The brand is so toxic': Dems fear extinction in rural US

The Democratic Party's brand is so toxic in some parts of rural America that liberals are removing bumper stickers and refusing to acknowledge their party affiliation publicly.

apnews.com

Growing Racial Diversity in Rural America: Results from the 2020 Census

In this brief, authors Kenneth Johnson and Daniel Lichter report that although population declines were widespread between 2010 and 2020, rural

carsey.unh.edu

Trump's Dubious Promise to End Birthright Citizenship - FactCheck.org

Former President Donald Trump misleadingly said that "under Biden’s current policies" children born to parents in the country illegally automatically become citizens. That's not a Biden policy, but rather it has been the standing interpretation of the 14th Amendment going back more than 100...

www.factcheck.org

Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Albion my Albion]

Anything to lessen the taxes on the super rich and the rural minority is just so gullible because they "REALLY LISTEN TO CONSERVATIVE MEDIA ONLY."

 

[raymondo]

The Democrats are simply losing rural America and have been for years - 97% of America is rural with nearly 18% of the population living in rural America …and rural America is small thinking, predominately white (76%), (although the white population is declining and racial diversity is slowly increasing)

• 65% of rural voters view the Democratic Party unfavorably — including 48% who do so strongly.
• Among 21 issues tested, a rural voter’s desire for candidates to support securing the U.S.-Mexico border had the strongest correlation with negative views about the Democratic Party
• Only 23% of rural voters say the Democratic Party “cares more about my community” than the GOP
  
  
  ‘Over the past two years, inflation has hit rural households harder than the rest of the country. According to researchers at Iowa State University, rural households had to pay an extra $8,120 due to inflation in 2021 and 2022, more than the $7,480 paid by urban households in the same two years. Meanwhile, researchers at Cornell University estimate that 94% of the nation’s job growth since 2000 happened in urban counties. According to Pew Research, former President Donald Trump was able to win 65% of the rural vote in 2020, up from 59% in 2016, pulling more away than Mitt Romney did in 2012. Republican candidates raked in 69% of the rural vote in the 2022 midterms.’ (see link below)

Trump campaigns as the Candidate to challenge the perception that Washington/the Dems especially don’t care about the ‘little white man’ and the ‘little white man’ buys it because he is really voting with his wallet and out of fear of ‘replacement’ - a popularist candidate who promises to plug leaks in the border with Mexico, send the children born in the USA to immigrants (in the US illegally) back to the parents’ country of origin (and end automatic right of citizenship) -DACA will also be a huge issue in the Election (see wiki link) - a popularist candidate who promises to help rural people keep their guns, their farms and their neighbourhoods free of Mexico’s ‘rapists’, ‘criminals’ and ‘LGQBTs’ …but they are being deceived if they think the Republicans are on their side as the Republicans are putting a Bill proposal through the House that will slash support for rural farming communities:

House Democrats Highlight Republican Hypocrisy in Agriculture-Rural Development-FDA Funding Bill

During today’s House Appropriations Committee markup of the 2024 Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies funding bill, House Democrats highlighted how Republicans are slashing rural investments and critical food programs.

democrats-appropriations.house.gov

'The brand is so toxic': Dems fear extinction in rural US

The Democratic Party's brand is so toxic in some parts of rural America that liberals are removing bumper stickers and refusing to acknowledge their party affiliation publicly.

apnews.com

Growing Racial Diversity in Rural America: Results from the 2020 Census

In this brief, authors Kenneth Johnson and Daniel Lichter report that although population declines were widespread between 2010 and 2020, rural

carsey.unh.edu

Trump's Dubious Promise to End Birthright Citizenship - FactCheck.org

Former President Donald Trump misleadingly said that "under Biden’s current policies" children born to parents in the country illegally automatically become citizens. That's not a Biden policy, but rather it has been the standing interpretation of the 14th Amendment going back more than 100...

www.factcheck.org

Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Thanks, and for the links. I wasn't aware of those detailed stats re rural voters