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Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
31,626
Maybe he doesn't actually know what Coppell's decision is going to be?!
 




Jul 21, 2003
606
silent wants him to go is pretending he's on his knees to keep him at club but cant resist the temptation of compensation as he needs it for jis pipe dream dont you get it? its that simple silent will get some dosh SC goes to the greener fields of Reading and we get rid of the longline of Pal@ce rejects welcome the new Manager of BHA FC.... DEANO DEANO IT HAS TO BE DEAN WILKINS
DEANO DEANO DEANO
 






Titanic

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Jul 5, 2003
40,345
West Sussex
DK has a policy (and reasonable in my view) of allowing clubs to talk to managers or players.

It's much better to have this out in the open - for Dk to know what is going on, rather than have manages or players acting behind his back.

There is no point in trying to keep an unhappy manager or player - but every point in trying to enlighten them as to what they will be missing if they choose to go.
 


Jul 21, 2003
606
so if SC is unhappy suits me show him the door he can *** off his heart is with Pal@ce dont you hypocrites get it he NEVER was committed to this club and NEVER will be he is Pal@ce and always will be we must get a new manager with true Albion connections that really cares about this club not a journeyman like the past few what about ..,...... DEAN WILKINS
 


sherriffbart

New member
Sep 24, 2003
150
if that is true that Mr Knight has a policy, then why dont we just scrap all of our contracts and say that all of our players are available and f*** the fans, we dont give a shit about you trying your f***ing damdest to help the club, buying shirts/season tickets/lotters cards/liitle kits for the back of the car.loyalty is no more.
We as fans are showing great loyalty , writing letters re Falmer/calling local politicians/attending the public enquiry and what do we get in return. " Any club can talk to who they like" How the f*** do they expect to run a business like that. Its a f***ing disgrace

I am so pissed off with this it is untrue.
 




Albion Dan

Banned
Jul 8, 2003
11,125
Peckham
I have to agree that I think Dick has got this one wrong, If Dick had said No then there is NO way Reading wouldve tapped steve up because of the Pardew affair.

I agree that with other clubs the situation might be different though.
 


Marc

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Jul 6, 2003
25,267
if Dick had said no, SC still would've spoke to Reading and would've Resigned from us....DK's policy is correct as he does'nt want unhappy managers/players not trying their hardest for this club.

Do you honestly think if DK had said NO that SC would'nt of (possibly) gone anyway?
 


Deano's Right Foot

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Jul 5, 2003
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Barcombe
If we scrapped contracts then we would not get ANY compensation when a manager leaves - talk is of Reading offering £100k for SC. A good reason for having contracts.
 




Titanic

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Jul 5, 2003
40,345
West Sussex
Players and managers need contracts - to describe the financial position regarding salaries, bonuses etc...

They also place a value on players / managers for transfer fees or compensation payments.

Unhappy employees are not good news in the long term - nor is public posturing about contracts in the Madejski/Jordan style.

I think DK is making the best of a really difficult situation.
 


Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
31,626
DK was not in a position to say no to Reading:

1. Coppell had a clause in his contract re. speaking to clubs from higher division.
2. Coppell's contract is only one year anyway.
3. DK overlooked Coppell when appointing Hinsh. Having eaten humble pie and hired him when we'd just lost 10 in a row DK is in no position to bugger Coppell's career now.
4. There was always a small possibility that Coppell would turn the Reading job down or DK persuade him to stay following the Reading interviews.
 






Had DK said "No, Mr Madejski, you can't talk to him" that would have been the end of things but I suspect it would also have pissed Coppell off so much that he would be extremely unlikely to WANT to continue to be manager.

and then we end up with a split dressing room, a manager in charge whom everyone (board, fans tea lasies) knows doen't want to be party of the organisation ie the situation that Madejski found himself in with Pardew. Contracts in any business are not handcuffs - they are agreements between "consenting adults". When that consent falls apart they only become sources of conflict. Any sensible chairman surely would want his manager to stay because the manager WANTS to stay, not because the chairman refused him the opportunity (and that's all it is) to talk to another club

The offer is made to Coppell - he should be given the opportuinity to accept or decline it, not his employer.
 


sherriffbart

New member
Sep 24, 2003
150
I dont agree with that at all.

The rumour says he wanted to talk to Taylor and Hull said no. End of....

I doubt if Taylor is now sitting there thinking he will not give his all to Hull because of it. You just get on with it.

Lets not keep trying to find excuses for the Board's ineptitude and Coppell's gutless whining. The bottom line is Coppell didnt want to sign a contract in the Summer if you remember, we had all this crap then and now it looks as though he is gone...fine..

Job Application.

Dear Dick

I am an out of work manager who has no loyalty, can I come and manage Brighton until something better comes along.

Reply

Course you can, after all we are just a stepping stone club anyway
 


Deano's Right Foot

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Jul 5, 2003
3,923
Barcombe
Sherrifbart

1 - I think that Taylor said not interested, not Hull, which is very different.

2 - DK has done wonders to attract the very best managers here, only to have them tempted away because we haven't got enough money to pay them or to spend on the team or to spend on the training facilities BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T GOT A GROUND (yet).

BLAME ARCHER.
 


for information:

First published on Thursday 05 June 2003:
Coppell agrees new deal
by Andy Naylor

Steve Coppell will still be Albion's manager next season after he accepted a new one-year contract today.

The contract starts on July 1 and replaces his current deal, which expires on June 30.

Albion wanted Coppell on a longer contract, but uncertainty over the new stadium plans at Falmer meant he was unwilling to commit beyond Albion's return to Division Two next season.

Chairman Dick Knight said today: "I'm obviously delighted that Steve is continuing as Albion's manager.

"I offered him a longer contract because the Board and I want him to lead this club into the future, but I fully understand that the outcome of the public inquiry on our vitally-needed new stadium is a factor in Steve only wanting to commit to a further year at this time.

"We are determined to win the battle for our new stadium because this is yet another reason why we need it, to unlock the potential of the club for the benefit, not only of supporters, but the city of Brighton and Hove.

"Meanwhile, with Steve at the helm, all followers of the Albion can look forward to another exciting season."

The Argus exclusively revealed today that Coppell was poised to stay.

He returned a few days ago from a three-week holiday in the Far East and negotiations involving Coppell, his agent and Knight have taken place since then.

Significantly, the club say Coppell is happy with the playing budget he has been given for next season.

That was one of the main bones of contention when Peter Taylor quit Albion last year after leading them to the Second Division title.

Coppell said: "I have said all along from day one it is a really good club.

"The potential is enormous and I would like to be part of that growth.

"We have got an awful lot of common ground. I have worked with some great players and people over the last seven months."

The former Crystal Palace chief, 48 next month, came within a whisker of keeping the Seagulls in the First Division last season after landing the job when they were stranded at the foot of the table.

Three of Coppell's out-of-contract signings, midfielder Simon Rodger, central defender Dean Blackwell and veteran goalkeeper Dave Beasant, are now all likely to stay as well.

Winger Paul Brooker, also out of contract, is still expected to be reunited with ex-Albion boss Micky Adams in the Premiership at Leicester.

Coppell guided cash-strapped Brentford to the play-off final against the odds when he last managed in the Second Division two seasons ago.

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