Leekbrookgull
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What,s the issue ? Followed POLICY. I would do the same. Respect to the Lost.
I enter into the world of NSC politics rarely, but IMHO, we lose too many capable individuals because of politics. Recently we lost an aircraft carrier captain/admiral because of "company" car abuse. Took 25+ years to get a person to the level of skill required to command and lead 700 people on the most modern warship this country owned, and we binned him because he leant "the company car" to his wife. What a waste of talent.
Same with Dany Cotton. A well respected individual, who rose through the ranks, and now is being expected to resign because of a shit building design, and a policy that clearly stated for many years that fire would be contained, and that people were best staying put?
She is retiring in 6 months and wants to put right some failings in that policy. She is a good person, and has always wanted to do the right thing. Hanging her out to dry is just wrong and ultimately pointless. You learn more from mistakes than you do from perfection.
She will retire in 6 months, and will have passed on the sort of experience that we all learn from. I believe she should stay her term and pass on her experience.
I notice the official report doesn't make an estimate of the number of lives that would have been lost had the LFB followed the recommendation in the report and tried to effect an emergency evacuation of hundreds of panicked people in the middle of the night into pitch dark hallways and stairwells filled with toxic smoke.
Many of them wouldn't have lasted 3 steps outside their flats before they would have succumbed to smoke inhalation. So then you have corridors filled with collapsed casualties, people trying to take luggage with them, people getting completely disorientated, peope getting separated from loved ones and turning back or just freezing, stampedes, people getting crushed on stairwells in the pitch dark. The practicalities that would have made this a worse option are endless.
The unpalatable fact of the matter is that once the fire in that tower block covered in flammable material took hold, people would die if they were told to stay put and people would die if they tried to evacuate. I believe the report is doing a disservice to those that died, those that survived and those sent to fight the fire by suggesting that evacuating the building is an action that would have saved more lives. I don't believe it necessarily would have and the LFB would still have been thrown to lions for deviating from established procedure.
The problem is she’s deemed white and privileged by an angry largely non white community of underprivileged immigrants or 2nd generation ethnic minorities. This tragedy has a huge racial undercurrent to it sadly and she will probably pay the price to keep the multicultural liberals happy when really the issue is class, not colour, and chronic underfunding in wider social welfare that includes housing. This and because a disaster of this size always requires a scapegoat and it seems even our heroic firemen and woman are fair game too these days. Doesn’t make it right though but then that probably doesn’t come into it.
Rubbish and not worthy of further debate.
She did screw up though.
Surely there have to be some recriminations rather than allowing her to retire on a £2 pension?
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One for Mr Nylon. A big "this" to this sober article from the Independent from someone who seems well qualified to speak on the matter. Respect to all those who had to deal with the incident on the day.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/grenfell-tower-fire-one-year-one-kensington-a8397276.html?fbclid=IwAR2G0bRuKaPE2_GefL-QK1hOv7Ym_yLBSrzCa4zCz0_Xjo4_3b-LfzKYBgA
As an ex-Firefighter all I can do is to totally agree with what has been stated above. It has been expressed much more eloquently than I could have written.
I also wonder if much of the spite is because of her gender?