Current situation at the club

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sumo

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Mar 24, 2007
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Im normally just an observer on the board however I feel compelled to post

First of all abusing young players in their first year as professionals is completley out of order it can only have a negative affect

However the club continue to cause themselves problems by stating things like healthy transfer budgets and we nearly signed this player etc.

If they were honest and said we only have 300k to spend because of Falmer or the costs that go with Withdean then I would have more respect.

It sounds like they are trying to protect their own positions within the club to dress up every piece of bad news o make it look good.

Glad I got that off my chest
 




Brighton Breezy

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Jul 5, 2003
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Sussex
Especially when the 'healthy transfer budget' turns out to be less than McGhee had at the start of this season...

For someone who is supposed to have a background in marketing, Dick Knight does not seem the best at SPINNING things.

They should hire MUSHY as a SPIN doctor.
 


Harold

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Jul 7, 2003
1,320
Hastings
sumo said:
If they were honest and said we only have 300k to spend because of Falmer or the costs that go with Withdean then I would have more respect.

Do you honestly want the chairman of our club to reveal what we have to spend?

That sort of honesty would do us no favours at all.
 


pishhead

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Jul 9, 2003
5,252
Everywhere
Re: Re: Current situation at the club

Harold said:
Do you honestly want the chairman of our club to reveal what we have to spend?

That sort of honesty would do us no favours at all.

No but look at our close season signings, Braintree towns lower league rivals must be rubbing there hands at the prospect of selling there prized striker to us for 50 quid and a couple of fatboy slim cd's.
Thats the scenario if the budget is lower than last season.
 


Big Jim

Big Jim
Feb 19, 2007
786
There is money isn't there? Just no bugger wants to come, and you can't blame them in the current situation. Or rather there's money to sign them, but not pay their wages. You can't bring someone in on a high wage as it could upset the wages balance there.
 




mona

The Glory Game
Jul 9, 2003
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High up on the South Downs.
Re: Re: Current situation at the club

Harold said:
Do you honestly want the chairman of our club to reveal what we have to spend?

That sort of honesty would do us no favours at all.
It would also encourage LDC and their fanatical nimby supporters to keep up the pressure.
Don't kid yourselves, David Neighbour would be popping champagne in his beach hut if we went bust. Norman B and Ann DeSnobbi would dance the gay gordon down Southover High St.
 


Barrel of Fun

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Another reason for not revealing your budget is that by some miracle a £45k defender would suddenly be valued at £120k as the selling team would be aware of your budget and can inflate their prices.
 


Harold

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Jul 7, 2003
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Hastings
Re: Re: Re: Current situation at the club

pishhead said:
No but look at our close season signings, Braintree towns lower league rivals must be rubbing there hands at the prospect of selling there prized striker to us for 50 quid and a couple of fatboy slim cd's.
Thats the scenario if the budget is lower than last season.

Not sure I understand your point. We could have paid five or even six figures for someone who didn't fit in or gave lacklustre displays. Turienzo is a good example no? Revs has turned out to be a decent signing (for the money) and hard worker for the team. Also, he is a product of the scouting network the club (especially Dean White) has worked hard on.

Lord alone knows I wish we had more to spend on players, but even if we had £3M to splash, I wouldn't want our Chairman to publicly state the figure.
 




Kinky Gerbil

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Jul 16, 2003
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Barrel of Fun said:
Another reason for not revealing your budget is that by some miracle a £45k defender would suddenly be valued at £120k as the selling team would be aware of your budget and can inflate their prices.

This is true, but saying you have a healthy transfer budget may increase the price even more as clubs think you have more.
 


Les Biehn

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Aug 14, 2005
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Kinky Gerbils said:
This is true, but saying you have a healthy transfer budget may increase the price even more as clubs think you have more.

I agree.

I don't want a figure, would just rather the club said because of our situation there is hardly any money in the transfer budget.
 


sumo

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Mar 24, 2007
26
The point of this is if you continue to dress things up then supporters will expect more.

If we struggle next season then people are likely to blame Wilkins and the players as their was a 'healthy transfer budget'

Clearly their is not
 




227 BHA

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Jul 5, 2003
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Big Jim said:
There is money isn't there? Just no bugger wants to come, and you can't blame them in the current situation.

Yes, but our situation has been like this for years.

DK keeps saying we have the money but the players won't join yet Micky Adams, Peter Taylor, Steve Coppell and even McGhee and Hinsh managed to attract players to this club.

I think there is more than a little DK spin going on cos if the offer is good enough the players would come ???
 


Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
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Jul 16, 2003
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hassocks
sumo said:
The point of this is if you continue to dress things up then supporters will expect more.

If we struggle next season then people are likely to blame Wilkins and the players as their was a 'healthy transfer budget'

Clearly their is not

Is that what the board wants?

Well we gave him a budget, its not OUR fault.
 


Barrel of Fun

Abort, retry, fail
Kinky Gerbils said:
This is true, but saying you have a healthy transfer budget may increase the price even more as clubs think you have more.

True, although I think the board needed to let the fans know, to appease them, without having to go into great detail. Thankfully, we do not pay over the odds often. (Turienzo etc. although I am sure some will say he was undervalued. :lol: )
 




Big Jim

Big Jim
Feb 19, 2007
786
227 BHA said:
Yes, but our situation has been like this for years.

DK keeps saying we have the money but the players won't join yet Micky Adams, Peter Taylor, Steve Coppell and even McGhee and Hinsh managed to attract players to this club.

I think there is more than a little DK spin going on cos if the offer is good enough the players would come ???

I think things were different then because Falmer looked more likely and round the corner, however since the permission was quashed and the ongoing costs biting into the accounts and x number of years on without a ground, it can't look too good a prospect for pro players. Plenty have turned us down from what I've heard.


I've no doubt I'll get picked up for some technicality of the above, but you probably can see what I'm getting at. The longer it's going on, the less likely it looks possible. Even if it is more likely in reality.
 


Harold

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Jul 7, 2003
1,320
Hastings
Les Biehn said:
I agree.

I don't want a figure, would just rather the club said because of our situation there is hardly any money in the transfer budget.

That's never going to happen though is it. A statement like that would simply drive fans away, and would be financial/commercial suicide at the very time they are touting for season ticket renewals.

I simply hope that 'healthy' means the budget compares to our opponents next season.
 


Dick Knight has made no public statement about the size of "the transfer budget".

All he has spoken about is "the playing budget". Spending on transfer fees will no doubt be part of that playing budget. The other part will be players' wages.

No doubt it is possible to boost the size of the transfer budget, without extra money being found, by reducing the size of the wage bill - possibly by reducing the size of the squad.

And if a player is sold, it is possible that some or all of the fee received could be allocated to the playing budget - either for extra wages or to boost the transfer budget. Whether that is in fact what happens would be a matter for the manager to discuss/debate with the board.
 


Monkster

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Jul 7, 2003
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The Token Carlisle United Fan
I think there seems to be a greater worry with the quality of loanees that come down to Brighton (whing excepted)......it can't all be the 'shitdean factor' not attracting them......
 




Brovion

In my defence, I was left unsupervised.
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Jul 6, 2003
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sumo said:
The point of this is if you continue to dress things up then supporters will expect more.

If we struggle next season then people are likely to blame Wilkins and the players as their was a 'healthy transfer budget'

Clearly their is not
Is that you Roy?
 


unnameable

New member
Feb 25, 2004
1,276
Oxford/Lancing
What annoys me about this club is that it is incapable of doing anything the easy way. We can't even manage mid-table obscurity without stuffing it up with six games to go.
 


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