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[Film] Cinematographer Halyna Hutchins killed when Alec Baldwin fired a prop gun on a movie set



The Clamp

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Blank firers do give out heat, flash and fragments. People often get minor burns on film sets from them. It’s possible that a blank can be prepped wrong or a 1 in a million piece of a dummy bullet can remain in the barrel from a previous shot.
Blanks are essentially modified real bullets, they are packed with cotton or paper rather than metal. It’s all conjecture on my part though but it can happen.
Blank firers are treated exactly like live firers on a film set and this is the reason why.
 


Billy the Fish

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Reports now saying this was a live round.

I've read a few things on twitter from people in the industry saying Alec might be in some do do for not following safety protocols.
 


Husty

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Reports now saying this was a live round.

I've read a few things on twitter from people in the industry saying Alec might be in some do do for not following safety protocols.

I mean it was obviously a live round? How else would someone be dead.
 


Baldseagull

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I mean it was obviously a live round? How else would someone be dead.

It was a blank round that killed Brandon Lee, though there was something in the barrel that the blank launched when it was fired.
 






nickbrighton

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Reports now saying this was a live round.

I've read a few things on twitter from people in the industry saying Alec might be in some do do for not following safety protocols.

I mean it was obviously a live round? How else would someone be dead.

In this context "live" means the gun is loaded with a blank bullet, rather than being empty. In that sense the gun is "live" not the bullet in it. Here is an article which goes into some of the detail.

From this report there seems to have been other issues with safety relating to guns on the set and other concerns

It always concerns me that in the USA, police documents, statements given to authorities etc all seem to be public almost as soon as they are made. In this case affidavits are quoted. So the idea of what happened is already being planted with selected official documents seemingly available to all and sundry- if charges are eventually brought preconceived ideas from this "evidence" surely cloud judgment of any potential jury?


https://www.darkhorizons.com/more-details-on-rust-shooting-emerge/
 


Cheeky Monkey

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For him to have been aiming directly at her seems odd. Even if you wanted to to get 'head on' footage of him discharging the gun he wouldn't need to be aiming for her body mass surely...
 


drew

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For him to have been aiming directly at her seems odd. Even if you wanted to to get 'head on' footage of him discharging the gun he wouldn't need to be aiming for her body mass surely...

I would guess he's aiming towards the camera and she and the director were in line. Apparently the director was standing behind her. It might even have been that she was behind the camera with director behind her. How often do we see a film shot looking down the barrel of a gun.
 




KZNSeagull

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I would guess he's aiming towards the camera and she and the director were in line. Apparently the director was standing behind her. It might even have been that she was behind the camera with director behind her. How often do we see a film shot looking down the barrel of a gun.

Maybe, but I would have thought for a film set to be safe, that shot would be taken using a remote camera with no-one standing behind it. I find it difficult to believe that a real gun would ever be fired on a film set whilst being pointed directly at someone.
 


Zeberdi

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Balwin + armorer to be charged with Involuntary Manslaughter


Can’t say I’m surprised it got to this nor would it make me particularly disappointed if he were convicted tbh. Everyone around live guns on film sets need to be more diligent- someone clearly dropped the ball on this one leading to a really tragic accident.

In a Country flooded with handguns, maybe this trial will be yet another stark reminder that in careless or inexperienced hands, handguns are lethal accidents waiting to happen.
 
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