Carry on Fox Hunting (despite govern't Ban)

[FG aka FOOTBALL GENIUS]

Hunting Ban 'Within Weeks'

Campaigners say a ban on hunting is imminent

The Government is to force through a ban on hunting within weeks, it has been claimed.

Anti-hunt MPs say they have been given "very clear assurances" from ministers that a Bill to outlaw fox-hunting would be put to MPs in the next two weeks.

Although it would receive overwhelming support in the Commons, it would again run into opposition in the Lords.

However, it is understood Commons speaker Michael Martin would then invoke the Parliament Act to push through a ban, allowing Tony Blair to distance himself from the legislation.

Downing Street has refused to comment on the claims. The Prime Minister's official spokesman last week said the Government's position had not changed on the issue.

But the League Against Cruel Sports said it had reason to be confident the ban would be brought in.

The group's spokesman Mike Hobday said: "We are being told by MPs that they have received very clear assurances from ministers that the Government is going to announce this coming week that it will introduce a Bill the following week.

"We have been campaigning for 80 years to get hunting banned and we would be absolutely delighted if that comes to pass."

However, hunt supporters warned they would ignore any ban.

Countryside Alliance spokesman Darren Hughes said: "Fifty thousand people have signed a petition saying they would be prepared to break the law if a ban was introduced and they would be prepared to face the consequences."

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another looney lefty politics WHATS WRONG WITH KILLING FOXES ANYWAY?

 

[sullyupthewing]

We do not kill em , we just beat them 1-0

 

[m20gull]

WHATS WRONG WITH KILLING FOXES ANYWAY?

Killing foxes? Nothing - vermin sometimes need to be controlled.

Hunting them with a pack of dogs? - that's a different question.

 

[FG aka FOOTBALL GENIUS]

 

[CHAPPERS]

Re: Re: Carry on Fox Hunting (despite govern't Ban)

Killing foxes? Nothing - vermin sometimes need to be controlled.

Hunting them with a pack of dogs? - that's a different question.

Quite.

 

[alan partridge]

didn't have you down as an anti-hunting type FG

 

[FG aka FOOTBALL GENIUS]

was re comment on Leicester City (Foxes) was superb seeing that old **** Adams on the losing side again, told ya he was useless as a manager!

 

[REDLAND]

Hunting Ban 'Within Weeks'

Campaigners say a ban on hunting is imminent

Excellent news, animal cruely should be history !!

 

[FG aka FOOTBALL GENIUS]

Was surprised fox hunting it wasn’t included in the Olympics, I mean synchronised swimming yawn yawn yawn, maybe fox hunting wasn’t included coz theres so many hunters in this country that Britain would win everytime!

 

[readingstockport]

Don't want to disappoint you fg knowing you are the great political brain you evidently think you are but it has nothing to do with the government or the prime minister wether the parliament act is invoked or not.

It is entirely down to the speaker of the house of commons as the representative within the parliament of the people to assert the primacy of the house of the commons over the house of lords. A right which was hard won by the parliamentary forces over the monarchy.

The daily mail and the rest of you tatty little right wing idiots can bang on all you like but it has nothing to do with tb at all.

I really wish people like you would at least learn a little constitutional history before climbing on to your soap-boxes.

 

[fatbadger]

another looney lefty politics WHATS WRONG WITH KILLING FOXES ANYWAY?

Opposing sports involving the killing of animals has, historically, been the province of the right. The basic argument has always been along the lines of all humans are inherently bad (the classic conservative reading of the Genesis story), and all cruelty is closely related (this is why the RSPCA founded a separate arm called the NSPCC - those that are cruel to animals are, statistically, also cruel to children). Thus, if you can control one set of cruel acts (i.e. those against animals), you can take control of that aspect of human nature.

These somewhat confused, but essentially well-meaning, set of themes were, unfortunately, taken over by a certain right-wing (i.e. further to the right than those evangelicals who had come up with the original ideology) reading of human nature that argued that only the poor were really subject to the vagaries of human nature. Thus, only those bloodsports practised by the common man were banned (hare-coursing, dogfighting, cockfighting, etc) while those practised by the rich retained legal status.

All that is happening now is that our right-wing government is finishing off the project that was begun by earlier right-wing governments. The policy appears to be left-wing because it appears to be an attack on the pleasures of the rich: actually, it is asking the rich to keep to the same moral standards they, and their forefathers, have expected of people like you and me and the common man of England.

 

[Brovion]

Re: Re: Carry on Fox Hunting (despite govern't Ban)

Opposing sports involving the killing of animals has, historically, been the province of the right. The basic argument has always been along the lines of all humans are inherently bad (the classic conservative reading of the Genesis story), and all cruelty is closely related (this is why the RSPCA founded a separate arm called the NSPCC - those that are cruel to animals are, statistically, also cruel to children). Thus, if you can control one set of cruel acts (i.e. those against animals), you can take control of that aspect of human nature.

These somewhat confused, but essentially well-meaning, set of themes were, unfortunately, taken over by a certain right-wing (i.e. further to the right than those evangelicals who had come up with the original ideology) reading of human nature that argued that only the poor were really subject to the vagaries of human nature. Thus, only those bloodsports practised by the common man were banned (hare-coursing, dogfighting, cockfighting, etc) while those practised by the rich retained legal status.

All that is happening now is that our right-wing government is finishing off the project that was begun by earlier right-wing governments. The policy appears to be left-wing because it appears to be an attack on the pleasures of the rich: actually, it is asking the rich to keep to the same moral standards they, and their forefathers, have expected of people like you and me and the common man of England.

That is a quite brilliant analysis. I'm frankly impressed.

 

[FG aka FOOTBALL GENIUS]

re "The daily mail and the rest of you tatty little right wing idiots can bang on all you like but it has nothing to do with tb at all."

- theres nothing wrong with the DAILY MAIL
- yeah i know it has nothing to do with Tuberculosis!

 

[chips and gravy]

We could substitute the fox for FG. That is a chase I would pay to watch!

 

[readingstockport]

Typically well thought out and argued reply fg. You defeat me with your amazing constitutional and political knowledge once again

 

[Mr Popkins]

upper class twats!! ,the problem is if they carry on fox hunting I bet they will only get a fine , which im sure will be minimal. this will be no deterant.

It needs to carry a prison sentance, cant see the government doing that though.

 

[Zeitgeist]

upper class twats!! ,the problem is if they carry on fox hunting I bet they will only get a fine , which im sure will be minimal. this will be no deterant.

It needs to carry a prison sentance, cant see the government doing that though.

Much of the aristocracy and types who hunt have often thought themselves above the law. Having been "sabing" in the past, they see the police as their own personal security force, just there to allow them to carry out their macabre pastime without hinderance from "the great unwasashed". Time is running out for the blood junkies. Hopefully the with the law on their side, anti hunt groups will be able to use it to continually bring the criminals who flout the law to heel. Then again, if the huntmaster is in the same lodge as the Local police inspector??

 

[Zeitgeist]

Oh I forgot....Hunting FG with packs of dogs is quite acceptable.....

 

[somerset]

Re: Re: Carry on Fox Hunting (despite govern't Ban)

Thus, only those bloodsports practised by the common man were banned (hare-coursing, dogfighting, cockfighting, etc) while those practised by the rich retained legal status.

That is exactly it............ I wish I could have used this argument before, in my tangles with the tiresome hunting cronies in this area( somerset), they are a beligerant lot I can tell you, clinging to history and tradition to justify the 'sport', and clinging to the shirt-tails of the rich landowners to perpetuate it.