Can we have a 'Cut n Paste' forum?

[Safeway]

It's struck me recently that there has been a tangible increase in the number of threads where the first post is simply an article from another website. The only thing original is the title of the thread.

Why do people feel the need to do this? Surely in this hi-tech world of multi media people have enough resources at their own fingertips to find out things for themselves without being spoon fed often totally un-Albion (or even football) related topics.

If I want to know the latest washed up celeb making an arse of themself in Soho, or read about which old Argus reporter has topped themselves then I'll look in the relevent place.

I'm not saying there shouldn't be any off-topics on the main board, but simply cutting and pasting articles from elsewhere is just lame (not too mention probably in breach of all manner of copyright laws).

Same goes for email forwards. We've all seem them before.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

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[Safeway]

Oh the irony.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

If you'd have thought of this last Thursday, Safeway, we could have saved bucket loads of bandwidth

Searched the web for Steve Coppell. Results 1 - 10 of about 15,800. Search took 0.09 seconds.

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[marvin]

If I want to know the latest washed up celeb making an arse of themself in Soho, or read about which old Argus reporter has topped themselves then I'll look in the relevent place.
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Would you have known he was an old Argus reporter, or even that he lived in Hove if you were not pointed towards it?

 

[Safeway]

The point is, Marvin, I couldn't give a shit. And nor could anyone else given the number of replies.

 

[BUTTERBALL]

What about a cut n' shut forum for dodgy cars?

 

[marvin]

No Safeway, it does not need a reply, there is a difference.

This trash on the other hand is a pure waste of time and space, ever heard of hypocrisy?

 

[Lord Bracknell]

The Griffin Park Grapevine Archive - Steve Coppell two faced.
General Bees Discussion - I dont know if this is the right forum but I am getting
pissed off with Steve Coppell This was a. ... Steve Coppell two faced. ...
www.griffinpark.org/forums/showthread/t-18323.html - 23k - Cached - Similar pages

Actually, this link is worth reading.

 

[Safeway]

No Safeway, it does not need a reply, there is a difference.

That's bollocks and you know it. Even when people have nothing sensible to say they'll make some sort of comment. Anything to get the post count up.
The fact 'your' thread got, hmm, ZERO REPLIES, means it was probably a case of people looking out of curiosity, thinking "wow", and closing it.

This trash on the other hand is a pure waste of time and space, ever heard of hypocrisy?

Do elaborate.

 

[JAMC]

Good god!
Is this the start of a NSC civil war or just rattling of handbags?

 

[dwayne]

we don't and shouldn't like Mods, they are the equivelant of orange bibbed jobsworth stewards.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

Next Tottenham Manager?
Directory of free bets from UK
Bookmakers and Odds Comparison
http://www.mybetting.co.uk/next-spurs-manager.htm

And I've discovered that Coppell is still 50/1 to get the Spurs job.

 

[marvin]

That's bollocks and you know it. Even when people have nothing sensible to say they'll make some sort of comment. Anything to get the post count up.
The fact 'your' thread got, hmm, ZERO REPLIES, means it was probably a case of people looking out of curiosity, thinking "wow", and closing it.

I would read that again if I were you and see if you can work out the flaw in your own argument.

Elaborate

May i remind you of the Big Brother twaddle that you were involved in, it destroyed the way some people wanted to use this forum. I did not try to stop you lot of sad people doing it but had to change the way I used the forum in order to continue doing so.

Now what you are saying is, I don't want it for this purpose, I want it for the purpose I want it for, If I am not interested in what others are using it for I will complain about it and suggest they not use it for that purpose.

Safeway you post most of the worst drivel that this board has ever seen. How about you stop posting rubbish? Like this thread for instance. Oh of course twats with no life want to get their "post count up".

If you have no interest in a subject, and I suggest proper use of the title thread will give you a clue as to what you want to avoid. Then you don't read what you have no interest in. That way normal intelligent interaction need never darken your sad mundane life.

End of subject as far as I am concerned.

 

[Safeway]

May i remind you of the Big Brother twaddle that you were involved in, it destroyed the way some people wanted to use this forum. I did not try to stop you lot of sad people doing it but had to change the way I used the forum in order to continue doing so.

I seem to remember you making your feelings quite clear on the subject at the time. Wasn't my idea so you can't blame me for it for a start. Agreed it didn't work but at least it kept a few of the more "sad" people off the main board, thought that would have pleased miserable fuckers such as yourself.
Anyway, what's wrong with trying new things? It didn't work, so what? A week later everything was back to normal, no harm done. Get over it, seriously.

Now what you are saying is, I don't want it for this purpose, I want it for the purpose I want it for, If I am not interested in what others are using it for I will complain about it and suggest they not use it for that purpose.

*head hits brick wall* NO. What I am saying/asking is, why do people have to just cut and paste whole articles from other websites? Chances are they will find out about it anyway. This is a discussion forum, not a news site. When you copy an article you are not offering an opinion, you are just repeating what someone else has said. Get it?

Safeway you post most of the worst drivel that this board has ever seen. How about you stop posting rubbish? Like this thread for instance. Oh of course twats with no life want to get their "post count up".

The first two sentences there are your opinion. Well done, at least you're getting the 'discussion' thing. What I will say is that all of my "drivel" is well labelled. You know exactly what the thread is about so can immediately make an informed choice as to whether or not you open the thread. Cut and pasted threads are frauds.
Why is thread rubbish though? It's raising a point and so far it's produced some semi-coherant debate. The whole point of a message board, no?
Believe it or not there are people that are actually bothered about their post count. If they weren't it wouldn't be such a constand bone of contention.

If you have no interest in a subject, and I suggest proper use of the title thread will give you a clue as to what you want to avoid.

As explained above, that's exactly what I already do. It's cut and pasters that are often fooling people.

That way normal intelligent interaction need never darken your sad mundane life.

Err, exactly where was was the "normal, intelligent interraction" on your dead journo thread? NOWHERE, that's precisely the point I'm trying to get into your thick skull.

End of subject as far as I am concerned.

WRONG. Now it is.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

we don't and shouldn't like Mods, they are the equivelant of orange bibbed jobsworth stewards.

I think you are making a reasonable point, dwayne.

I think Safeway is making a reasonable point.

And Marvin is making a reasonable point.

I disagree with one or more of you. But - at least as far as this mod is concerned - I don't think it's for us to intervene when handbags start flying. The mods only tinker with posts when it's necessary to protect the integrity of NSC. This argument certainly isn't one of those occasions.

Far from being "jobsworth stewards", most of the time we're leaning against the wall, doing bugger-all.

 

[Cantona's Flying Dropkick]

No

 

[Safeway]

I wasn't actually being serious. Just trying to raise a point.

Don't know why I bother sometimes.

 

[trueblue]

I like the other stuff... the off topic bits and pieces. Sure, I can surf the web looking for it but I'm lazy and it's nice when someone else makes it easy for me.