[Albion] Brighton & Hove Albion vs Arsenal *** Official Match Thread ***

[pb21]

And that is the problem with this nonsense interpretation of "clear and obvious." For 99% of people, clear and obvious means that everyone in that stadium knows the decision is wrong. When 99% have noticed, like with Mitoma's second, that's not clear and obvious.

Clear and obvious doesn't apply to offside though. Having said that should still stand imo.

 

[Bodian]

Saka was lucky not to see a second yellow.

"no way a booking, but if he hadn't been on a yellow it may have been" - strange logic from the co-commentator (Dixon?)

 

[HalfaSeatOn]

Much prefer an inexperienced striker than an experienced non striker playing up top. Made a big difference. Good to finish a game with optimism. I wouldn’t like to be in Everton’s shoes on Tuesday.

 

[Weststander]

Imho our 3 best players are Caicedo, Mac Allister and Veltman. Arse lucked out massively with Mac A’s WC leave and Caicedo’s 5th yellow. Leaving no pace or power in CM, no specialists to protect the defence.

Then the madness of starting Lamptey over the brilliance of Veltman.

Take the 3 best players out of any EPL first 11 and it’s a game changer.

A loss was the obvious outcome to anyone who knows the value Caicedo, Mac Allister and Veltman. Hence:

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

And that is the problem with this nonsense interpretation of "clear and obvious." For 99% of people, clear and obvious means that everyone in that stadium knows the decision is wrong. When 99% are none the wiser, like with Mitoma's second, that's not clear and obvious.

We gave a great account of ourselves against an excellent Arsenal side. With Ali Mac, Caicedo and Welbeck, that would have been a different scoreline. Delighted for Evan as well - I know this is kneejerk but I'd have him over Undav and can see why De Zerbi has done so.

Of course, clear and obvious error doesn't apply to offside. Though I do think these incredibly marginal ones that nobody notices shouldn't come under the remit of VAR. These armpit, or heel, offsides do nothing for the game. If the officials don't refer for offside I don't think it should be given

 

[Stato]

Refereeing - 'Yes there was a foul in the box, but he only pulled his shirt a little bit'

Also refereeing -'Before you scored that brilliant goal, your heel was offside. Sorry, but our standards are so hIgh that we can't overlook even the tiniest of infringements.'

 

[maltaseagull]

Together with sheer determination. Could he be the striker we need? He looked the part the short time he was on.

I hope he gets a chance.

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

Thoroughly entertaining if frustrating game. Three poor/unlucky goals to concede. A stirring fightback, edge of the seat chances and a grandstand finish denied by a shit(if technically correct) VAR decision.

I thought Gilmour looked ok on the ball but I'd hope that if they needed any convincing then today should have highlighted to the club just how important the midfield axis of Ali Mac and Caicedo is.

Really happy for Ferguson to have scored and he was a gazza stud away form a second. If we manage him right we'll have a very decent player there.

 

[brightn'ove]

I am sure they froze the frame for the offside too early, and Mitoma was actually back inside by the time it came off Ferguson

Yes!! It ricocheted off his shoulder

 

[jcdenton08]

Thought Arsenal were excellent, particularly in the first half where the game was won. We struggled with their shape and press - that said both goals were disappointing to concede.

Mitoma - my boy - is class. Comfortably our best player. Trossard had another very poor game, unfortunately. Body language was extremely negative again tonight.

Ferguson looked impressive, but we mustn’t push the guy too hard too fast. Look what happened with a certain fellow Irish striker brought into the first team and pushed too far too soon.

 

[GT49er]

The kids have made a difference.

The Kids are Alright!

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Much prefer an inexperienced striker than an experienced non striker playing up top. Made a big difference. Good to finish a game with optimism. I wouldn’t like to be in Everton’s shoes on Tuesday.

Yes mate. Agree with that. we've been crying out for some presence up there. Someone who can occupy a defender. Trossard looks lost up there. He's painfully out of position.

Ferguson won't always come off, but he's shown what he can add. If we're not buying anyone, he should be starting most games

 

[1066familyman]

Loads of positives from today for us I think.



Missing key players yet never were we completely outplayed. In fact, we probably had the better of the game against the team top of the league. Simply terrible defending for their first three goals especially.

Youngsters got a run out and all did ok.

Mittoma continues to frighten the life out of anyone he runs at.

Superb character from the whole team to keep fighting right to the end.

Young Billy Gilmour stepped up when called upon.


I'll take that today in the context of the season so far.

 

[maresfield seagull]

Much prefer an inexperienced striker than an experienced non striker playing up top. Made a big difference. Good to finish a game with optimism. I wouldn’t like to be in Everton’s shoes on Tuesday.

Let's Not put too much weight on Evans shoulders and break him before he s got started But signs are Good

 

[Weststander]

cant see Arsenal getting caught , champions elect

Bookies will give you 5/2, so printing money then.

 

[peterward]

Boo!

Consonant please.
B
vowel
BO
another vowel
BOO
consonant
BOOR
consonant
BOORD
another consonant
BOORDZ
vowel
BOORDZO
vowel
BOORDZOU
finally a consonant
BOORDZOUT

 

[dolphins]

Would it hurt Sako to show a little bit of happiness?

 

[SeagullDubai]

The rule is bullshit and its applied selectively by microscopic nazi officials hell bent on ruling out good goals and making themselves the story.

Rule should be similar as for the ball, if any part hasn't crossed line it's in.

If any part of a player is onside, they should be deemed onside.

Guarantees more goals and players being the story, not idiots in dark rooms with video monitors.

Eventually the games will be run by machines with zero margin for error. We will see the end of the big 6 bias as machines are soulless and will continually learn from their mistakes. A penalty will always be a penalty, a dive will always be a dive and Joey Barton will always be a thug.

 

[GT49er]

Mrs AR has just said that's bollox to VAR

Even Tony Pulis, who never seems to have a good word for Brighton, thinks that was bollocks!

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Imho our 3 best players are Caicedo, Mac Allister and Veltman. Arse lucked out massively with Mac A’s WC leave and Caicedo’s 5th yellow. Leaving no pace or power in CM, no specialists to protect the defence.

Then the madness of starting Lamptey over the brilliance of Veltman.

Take the 3 best players out of any EPL first 11 and it’s a game changer.

A loss was the obvious outcome to anyone who knows the value Caicedo, Mac Allister and Veltman.

I listened on the Albion website commentary and they said Veltman had taken a wack at Saints and suggested he might have been rested because of this.