[Politics] Brexit

[A1X]

I am sorry to say this, but this sort of response was always an 'oven ready' excuse for Brexit supporters. They will say whatever is necessary to preserve the 'rectitude' of their beliefs regardless of the facts. You can explain why it was always a daft idea to them, but you cannot understand it for them.

They’re fast becoming like the communists, point out the problems with it and they say “ but true communism has never happened, it’s been undermined from within”.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

 

[Lever]

They’re fast becoming like the communists, point out the problems with it and they say “ but true communism has never happened, it’s been undermined from within”.

Don't forget to thank 'Is it PotG?' for his persistent, laughably pathetic attempts at satire and irony. I always do and I try to encourage his further contributions, but unfortunately a snarky thumbs up seems to be all he has to offer on the subject....

 

[Eric the meek]

Another day on the Brexit thread, and another reason why Brexiteers should not have voted leave. And still no sign of anything that would even slightly support their decision.

The few Brexiteers left clinging on by their fingertips, are now trying to diminish or dismiss the fruit and veg shortages. Meanwhile, there's hardly a vegetable to be seen in the Brexit households. Well, not on their plates anyway.

 

[WATFORD zero]

So a third of our current record Food inflation is directly attributable to Brexit non-tariff barriers on imported food.

Brexit Caused a Third of UK Food Price Inflation, LSE Paper Says​

Britain’s post-Brexit trading arrangements formally began in January 2021. Since then, food categories with a high reliance on imports from the EU such as meat and cheese have seen price increases “in the region of 10 percentage points higher relative to similar products not exposed to Brexit,” the LSE paper found. The authors said Covid and the war in Ukraine did not affect their findings. “The fact that the results are driven entirely by products with high non-tariff barriers imported from the EU offers strong evidence that Brexit is the driving force behind these effects,” they said.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-24/brexit-caused-a-third-of-uk-food-price-inflation-lse-paper-says?leadSource=uverify wall

Not to mention what Brexit has already done to the British agricultural industry with producers no longer being able to produce sufficient food efficiently due to the ever increasing costs, or subsidise their production with exports. The main reason behind a 20% increase in imported food in the last year.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/nationalaccounts/balanceofpayments/articles/uktradeingoodsyearinreview/2022#:~:text=Trends in food and live animals,-Imports of food&text=Over the same period exports,3.1% on average since 2015.

And all this, just in time for us to introduce our new import controls later this year and to drive more shortages of imported food on the shelves and even higher food inflation.

It really is the gift that keeps on giving, and nobody is prepared to do anything about a situation getting progressively worse by the month other than whine about it

 

[Randy McNob]

 

[Randy McNob]

 

[Carbonara]

People are assuming Brexit has not worked because we are not richer than the US.Actually a big part of Brexit worked from day one which is that we had our sovereignty back.That we can now make our own rules, that Europeans cannot come here to live just like that.It's the economic part of Brexit that people are saying hasn't worked.Considering Covid has screwed everything up for a long time , there is a war going on, energy prices have gone mad,and even Germany is looking at recession, where should we be economicallyGet real.
Remember that for alot of Brexiters the economics of it do not matter.

 

[Carbonara]

Interesting post. How is the responsibility of other countries to "make Brexit work" ?

It's totally not their responsibility.You haven't understood.

 

[WATFORD zero]

It's certainly more Ppf/Bakerlite than the relative intellectual quality that is @Steve Foster's son's various accounts

 

[clapham_gull]

How was Brexit ever supposed to work when there are so many people who don't want it to work including people abroad?

Always someone else's fault isn't it. Yeah but yeah but no but.

Firstly it was foreigners running our country, now it's other foreigners.

I thought you'd taken back control ?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

It's totally not their responsibility.You haven't understood.

Oh, the irony.

 

[Eric the meek]

People are assuming Brexit has not worked because we are not richer than the US.Actually a big part of Brexit worked from day one which is that we had our sovereignty back.That we can now make our own rules, that Europeans cannot come here to live just like that.It'snomic part of Brexit that people are saying hasn't worked.Considering Covid has screwed everything up for a long time , there is a war going on, energy prices have gone mad,and even Germany is looking at recession, where should we be economicallyGet real.
Remember that for alot of Brexiters the economics of it do not matter.

I didn't realise you had the ability to read the minds of remainers. You Brexiteers are people with hidden shallows.

 

[Eric the meek]

Oh, the irony.

You've just whooshed him, manifested in him experiencing an ever-so-gentle breeze around his head.

 

[Baldseagull]

People are assuming Brexit has not worked because we are not richer than the US.Actually a big part of Brexit worked from day one which is that we had our sovereignty back.That we can now make our own rules, that Europeans cannot come here to live just like that.It's the economic part of Brexit that people are saying hasn't worked.Considering Covid has screwed everything up for a long time , there is a war going on, energy prices have gone mad,and even Germany is looking at recession, where should we be economicallyGet real.
Remember that for alot of Brexiters the economics of it do not matter.

And you can't go and live and work anywhere in Europe anymore either, or even just spend more than 3 months in 6 there as a tourist.
You have no more sovereignty than you had before. Did you vote for any of the shit we have now, or the last 2 PM's we have had? I have never had an MP that I voted for representing me in Westminster, but I did have MEP's that I voted for in the EU parliament.
I bet there is a lot less than 52% of the referendum participants that doesn't give a shit about the economics.

 

[Wardy's twin]

People are assuming Brexit has not worked because we are not richer than the US.Actually a big part of Brexit worked from day one which is that we had our sovereignty back.That we can now make our own rules, that Europeans cannot come here to live just like that.It's the economic part of Brexit that people are saying hasn't worked.Considering Covid has screwed everything up for a long time , there is a war going on, energy prices have gone mad,and even Germany is looking at recession, where should we be economicallyGet real.
Remember that for alot of Brexiters the economics of it do not matter.

Get real ... In a globalised world being a 'little englander' doesn't cut it. We have no real sovereignty, we are still retaining a lot of European laws, we still have to conform to international laws and our economic status (which drives ability for true sovereignty) is going down the pan. Get real accept it for what it was/is a big f*ckup.

 

[BadFish]

People are assuming Brexit has not worked because we are not richer than the US.Actually a big part of Brexit worked from day one which is that we had our sovereignty back.That we can now make our own rules, that Europeans cannot come here to live just like that.It's the economic part of Brexit that people are saying hasn't worked.Considering Covid has screwed everything up for a long time , there is a war going on, energy prices have gone mad,and even Germany is looking at recession, where should we be economicallyGet real.
Remember that for alot of Brexiters the economics of it do not matter.

What are your top ten laws that have been made by the British government since Brexit, that couldn't have been made while in the EU?

 

[BadFish]

Another day on the Brexit thread, and another reason why Brexiteers should not have voted leave. And still no sign of anything that would even slightly support their decision.

The few Brexiteers left clinging on by their fingertips, are now trying to diminish or dismiss the fruit and veg shortages. Meanwhile, there's hardly a vegetable to be seen in the Brexit households. Well, not on their plates anyway.

Yeah . . . but . . . sovereignty . . . the government* didn't do it right (quelle f***ing Surprise) . . . it's the remainers fault.



*This is the very same government that they voted to give more power (sovereignty) to and remove a layer of checks and balances over their duplicitous selfish scheming/ ineptitude (delete as appropriate).


To be fair the mental gymnastics required to come on here and defend the decision they made is such that it isn't too much of a surprise they can't muster much.

 

[BadFish]

An important lesson learned from Brexit and Trupism is that the desire to give the government a bloody nose may well result in something far far worse.

Look who has got the sovereignty you all voted for.

 

[Nobby]

How was Brexit ever supposed to work when there are so many people who don't want it to work including people abroad?

Just to clarify, you believe everyone in the UK is working hard to make Brexit work?

You’re being serious aren’t you
If you could tell me what I need to do
Looking forward to the sunny uplands