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Australian Prime Minister bans cricket tour of Zimbabwe



Behind Enemy Lines

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At long last, a politician has ruled that some things are more important than cricket in Zimbabwe. I'm not a fan of John Howard but for this I applaud him. The idea that politics and sport don't have a relationship has always been nonsense and now finally, someone has seen sense. Very well played.

This from the BBC.

Aussies pull out of Zimbabwe tour

Mr Howard said Robert Mugabe was a "grubby dictator"
Australian Prime Minister John Howard has ordered the country's cricket team to pull out of a planned tour of Zimbabwe later this year.
He said the tour would be an "enormous propaganda boost" to Zimbabwe President Robert Mugabe.

The Australian team was due to play three one-day internationals in Zimbabwe in September.

Pressure has been building on the team not to go ahead with the tour to the strife-torn African nation.

Mr Howard said on Australia's ABC television: "The government through the foreign minister has written to Cricket Australia instructing that the tour not go ahead."

He added: "We don't do this lightly."

The prime minister said the government could use its power over the players' passports if Cricket Australia did not abide by his decision.

The Mugabe regime is behaving like the Gestapo towards its political opponents

John Howard
Australian Prime Minister

"Whilst it pains me both as a cricket lover and as somebody who genuinely believes these things should be left to sporting organisations... it leaves me with no alternative."

The head of Cricket Australia, James Sutherland, said the body was committed to help Zimbabwe cricket develop and would now look at holding the matches in a venue outside the country.

The likely venue is South Africa, where a 20-20 World Cup series will be held later in the year.

"We are obliged to do what we can to help Zimbabwe cricketers and we could help them by playing somewhere else," Sutherland said.

"We are discussing with the government where we could play Zimbabwe at a neutral venue."

No penalty

Mr Howard has long been a critic of Mr Mugabe's government but this was his strongest condemnation yet, says the BBC's Nick Bryant in Sydney.

"The Mugabe regime is behaving like the Gestapo towards its political opponents," Mr Howard said.


Australia last played Zimbabwe in a World Cup warm-up game
"I have no doubt that if this tour goes ahead it will be an enormous boost to this grubby dictator."

Cricket Australia had been reluctant to cancel its September tour to Zimbabwe because that would have made it liable to pay a minimum $2m fine levied by the sport's international governing body, the International Cricket Council (ICC).

However, an ICC statement released before the Australian government forced the cancellation of the tour indicates Cricket Australia would not be fined.

The ICC statement declares that if a government refuses to "grant a consent... for its team to tour another country", that team is exempt from the penalty.

Zimbabwe's ambassador to Australia, Stephen Chiketa, said last week that politics had no place in sport and that banning the tour would hurt the development of cricket in his country.

"You have young players in Zimbabwe who want to emulate great cricket players in Australia," he told Australia's Seven television network.

"Take your politics somewhere else."
 






bigc

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Bush went to Zambia by accident.

Problem is, if you do something DIRECTLY, as you imply BOF, you set a precedent that would be dangerous.

I'm not disagreeing that something should be done, it's just not as simple as all that though. Calling off cricket tours is about as good as it gets sadly.
 


Barrel of Fun

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:lol: Zambia.

I think they could have at least got the other African Nations up in arms to put pressure on Mugabe.

I think that a dangerous precedent has already been set, in that a leader is allowed to behave in this way and face an 'uncontested' run in office. A beautiful country that is sadly facing ruin. :(
 






bigc

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Barrel of Fun said:


I think that a dangerous precedent has already been set, in that a leader is allowed to behave in this way and face an 'uncontested' run in office. A beautiful country that is sadly facing ruin. :(

Well the UN was founded upon the principle of national sovereignity being the key above all others. Sadly changing it isn't as easy as you'd hope, as wishing to intervene for the "benefit of another country's population" would just give people like the Neo-Con's in the US ample opportunity to redefine terms.
 


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1066gull

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Good on him. Maybe if other people take a similar stance, something may be done about Mugabe.

Bush? Blair? Where are you? :shrug:
Bush is a lame duck. Blair can't do a lot in a month....
 


Icy Gull

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Kicking our arses at just about all sports and now doing the "right" thing how fecking annoying are these Aussies :clap: :clap:
 




Meade's Ball

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Isn't Howard the fucker who wouldn't allow a ship of desperate, mostly Iraqi refugees to land on his shores, take a nationalistic moral high-point, despite the fact that Australia was only invaded and stolen by white bigots in the last couple of hundred years?

It's good that Mugabe is shown to be unsupported and an evil global figure, but lets not start praising that bull-headed bigot too highly.
Or, lets not have me do that.
 


tedebear

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Well done Howard. Lets hope they can work something out to play the matches in another country maybe? As much as I don't think politics and sport should mix, I think this is the right decision, and in order not to punish the cricketers I think they could play it somewhere else, so Zimbabwe's government gets none of the tourist money this would create...but the players still get to play...lets face it Mugabe isn't the sportsmens fault...
 


withdeanwombat

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Australia,where a previous PM said of Chinese immigration "Two wongs don't make a white",now does the right thing in its political stance towards a despot in Africa.Quick,tell George about Mugabe's WMD which could be launched against Washington in...oooo..........300 years.
 




Icy Gull

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withdeanwombat said:
[B.Quick,tell George about Mugabe's WMD which could be launched against Washington in...oooo..........300 years. [/B]

Oil is the missing word in the above, otherwise it would have been regime changed long ago
 


Behind Enemy Lines

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Meade's_Ball said:
Isn't Howard the fucker who wouldn't allow a ship of desperate, mostly Iraqi refugees to land on his shores, take a nationalistic moral high-point, despite the fact that Australia was only invaded and stolen by white bigots in the last couple of hundred years?

It's good that Mugabe is shown to be unsupported and an evil global figure, but lets not start praising that bull-headed bigot too highly.
Or, lets not have me do that.

Indeed - that's why I said I'm not a big fan of his. But on this occasion, he is right and it would be churlish not to acknowledge that.
 


Am I the only person to see a thread of hypocrisy running through this.

The Australian cricket team would be heavily fined if THEY pulled out of the tour.

But "if a government refuses to 'grant a consent... for its team to tour another country', that team is exempt from the penalty".

Howard's intervention is therefore a convenient device to avoid the hefty fine.

Everyone breathes a sigh of relief.

Why the hell can't the CRICKET AUTHORITIES do the decent thing for once and take a stand against an intolerable regime?

:angry:
 




Gully

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Someone should ask Brown at prime ministerial questions (assuming that he gets the job) what his Governments stance on Zimbabwe will be, given that the previous one appears to have done so little to put pressure on Mugabe.
 


tedebear

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Lord Bracknell said:
Why the hell can't the CRICKET AUTHORITIES do the decent thing for once and take a stand against an intolerable regime?
:angry:

Because sport and politics shouldn't mix?

The cricket team can go against the wishes of the government, play and get fined if they so desire...
 


Behind Enemy Lines

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Lord Bracknell said:
Am I the only person to see a thread of hypocrisy running through this.

The Australian cricket team would be heavily fined if THEY pulled out of the tour.

But "if a government refuses to 'grant a consent... for its team to tour another country', that team is exempt from the penalty".

Howard's intervention is therefore a convenient device to avoid the hefty fine.

Everyone breathes a sigh of relief.

Why the hell can't the CRICKET AUTHORITIES do the decent thing for once and take a stand against an intolerable regime?

:angry:

In the English case, the cricket authorities have pathetically stuck to the old fashioned and nonsensical idea that "sport and politics" don't mix. Err... the USA's boycott of the Moscow Olympics anyone?

Secondly, and most shamefully, cricket tours are money making exercise and therefore they have been relunctant to take a financial hit.

It's taken a right wing Australian politician to again show what an old fashioned and spineless lot the cricket authorities are.
 






Gully

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I agree that politics and sport should be kept apart, but there are times when things are so bad that it is difficult to avoid it, the current political situation in Zimbabwe has reached that point in my opinion. I can only speak from experience having been on a hockey tour to South Africa, in the days before the end of appartheid there is no way that I would have entertained the thought, that now stands with Zimbabwe. The way that the Government led by Mugabe is treating some of its citizens is on par, or worse, than the dark days in South Africa. Many say that the west is reluctant to interfere, the more cynical say that it is because Zimbabwe doesn't have oil, it is time for the west to stand up and be counted before we have another Rwanda on our hands.
 


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