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[Politics] Assisted dying









jackalbion

Well-known member
Aug 30, 2011
5,003
For me I'm very torn on it. I think if you're life is truly unliveable then I think you should have a choice, but I think the pressure associated with Mental Health, may lead to some to think they are a burden, I don't think those pressures, should even be a part of the equation. Ultimately its down to personal choice and I'd respect any MPs decision on this, and a personal view.
 


Mellor 3 Ward 4

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2004
10,310
saaf of the water
For me I'm very torn on it. I think if you're life is truly unliveable then I think you should have a choice, but I think the pressure associated with Mental Health, may lead to some to think they are a burden, I don't think those pressures, should even be a part of the equation. Ultimately its down to personal choice and I'd respect any MPs decision on this, and a personal view.
Agree, I've very torn too.
 








Seecider

Active member
Apr 25, 2009
228
For some the measure of a civilised society is in what it does to protect the most vulnerable. If we have no respect for the unborn child, why would we protect the frail elderly who need love and care, the dying who need palliative care or he mentally ill who need help ?
 


Seagull58

In the Algarve
Jan 31, 2012
8,599
Vilamoura, Portugal
For some the measure of a civilised society is in what it does to protect the most vulnerable. If we have no respect for the unborn child, why would we protect the frail elderly who need love and care, the dying who need palliative care or he mentally ill who need help ?
Who has no respect for the unborn child? Antenatal care and support is good in the UK, is it not?
 




amexer

Well-known member
Aug 8, 2011
6,896
Very difficult subject. But I certainly would not want to be around if i couldnt deal with my personal needs or able to recognise anyone.
Agree not so easy to deal with when just mental issues
 


The Brighton Ace

Active member
Nov 14, 2008
281
Sussex by the sea
For some the measure of a civilised society is in what it does to protect the most vulnerable. If we have no respect for the unborn child, why would we protect the frail elderly who need love and care, the dying who need palliative care or he mentally ill who need help ?
No respect for the unborn child? Please do enlighten us.
 


Mellor 3 Ward 4

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2004
10,310
saaf of the water
Not really a matter for MPs, doctors or judges. It should be entirely a personal choice.
There has to be a law, one way or the other - and like it or not, tthe law is decided by MPs.
While I've never been a huge fan of Starmer, I respect him allowing a free vote, I expect the results will vary on all sides of Parliament from every party.
Absolutley, but I don't think you couldn't force an MP to vote one way or the other on this.
 






ROSM

Well-known member
Dec 26, 2005
6,833
Just far enough away from LDC
For many years I have been far more in favour than against.

However this debate (which I must say has been handled well by those on both sides - with mature, calm and well reasoned arguments) has given me doubts especially around the costs of this approach and impacts on the doctors who will be required to give approvals.

I think on balance I am still in favour BUT the debate has caused me to consider alternative views and positions and challenge myself

And that is what good debate should do
 


Uncle Spielberg

Well-known member
Jul 6, 2003
43,157
Lancing
Absolutely yes
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
The bill in Parliament is only for those people with a terminal illness and less that 6 month to live.
It appears that way, at the moment, but exceptions start being made, and then it broadens, as it did in Canada. I can visualise an elderly person, with their own home, ‘being persuaded‘, once diagnosed with dementia. No law is watertight.
 










Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
I don’t know but when nearing the end don’t some medical staff quicken the end by upping some pain meds to help the patients pass peacefully and quickly ?
That is accepted medical practice as is withdrawing treatment. My ex father in law was dying of leukaemia, when he developed pneumonia. The GP came to the house, spoke to the family and said, ‘You do know, I won’t be prescribing antibiotics‘?
Everyone was ok with that, and he passed peacefully the next day.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
It's generally considered cruel not to put a suffering animal out of its pain. Why should a suffering human being have to endure evil levels of pain with no legal means of putting an end to it?
Palliative care ensures nobody would die in agony from illness. This is why we have hospices.
 


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