mejonaNO12 aka riskit
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What if I wasn't thinking about her gender in the first place?
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[Humour] Sian Massey
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What if I wasn't thinking about her gender in the first place?
In all seriousness that offside wasn't even in the five worst decisions in that game. The blatant handball for their second and the Millwall player thinking he was actually playing in the Six Nations for their first are at the very top.
Mellor 3 Ward 4
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drew
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She made an error but if you want to blame anyone, blame the FA for not having VAR for all the quarter finals. Nothing about 'championship' clubs installing it, just need tv cameras at various angles (not sure what some people think VAR is!!!). There were plenty of cameras at the game so VAR could have been used.
Kalimantan Gull
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Everyone I was with in the pub said 'offside' - it was only on replay did it appear it was just on. Montoya was moving very fast, and basically impossible for the assistant ref to both look down the defensive line AND work out exactly when Stephens played the ball.
The point 'what did she do wrong', was really 'what did she do wrong that any other assistant ref wouldn't have done', considering that for the very first time this season we have a post singling out an assistant referee, when we've been on the wrong side of bad decisions many times this season
Clearly you can't forget her gender, otherwise you wouldn't have raised it.
She made an error. It's happen a thousand times before. The speed that Montoya was going at, it hardly a surprise.
She got a difficult, marginal decision wrong (that many others - me included - thought was the right decision until I got a message from a mate watching TV). Fair play to you if that never happens to you in your job.
She probably had a slightly better view than you!!
Regardless, i’m sure many linesmen have to make an educated guess in such circumstances and when they get lucky it’s regarded as a brilliant decision, alternatively they are regarded as useless.
VAR lighting and cameras should be a must for all PL, Championship and FA Cup quarter finals onwards, where the stakes are so high.
seagulls4ever
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- Oct 2, 2003
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You haven't watched much PL football if you don't think she's very good.
See, we can all play that game
Here's the screengrab.................... bearing in mind the pace Montoya was running at, and the line of 4 players Massey needs to be able to see through (Montoya in the way as she looks across for sure), it's not the most heinous of bad decisions..................
seagulls4ever
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Unfortunatley, you are quite right.
Don't understate. Should team up with Friend (worst referee).
Worse linesperson ever and predictable as well
https://www.northstandchat.com/show...h-Thread-***&p=8819722&viewfull=1#post8819722
sussex_guy2k2
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- Jun 6, 2014
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The only issue in that offside decision is why VAR wasn't there to help her. If people think that was an easy decision to make in any way, shape or form in real time, then I suggest they have a go at being a linesman themselves as they clearly have absolutely no idea.
Furthermore, the fact that we've also got a whole thread dedicated to her performance based on one mistake yet I don't ever remember a whole thread dedicated to a male linesman / assistant referee on here really does reflect badly on us as a fan base and a message board.
Furthermore, the fact that we've also got a whole thread dedicated to her performance based on one mistake yet I don't ever remember a whole thread dedicated to a male linesman / assistant referee on here really does reflect badly on us as a fan base and a message board.
pb21
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Surely they should be able to appreciate there is a blue shirt ~1 yard nearer to the goal line than a yellow? In addition the two yellow shirts are on the line, more or less, both blue shirts inside the box, this should make things easier!
Would should you do though if you aren't sure though, raise the flag for offside or not?
Bevendean Hillbilly
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That screen grab only makes the decision even more appalling. She is standing exactly where she should be looking straight across the pitch with the 18 yard line as her reference point. She is a highly experienced official and she has positioned herself there precisely to anticipate offside infringements and then gets it completely wrong.
No doubt the Millwall fans were calling “offside” every time we played the ball forwards, especially in the dying seconds of the game...I know I would be...but the line officials job is to ignore that and make the right call based on what she sees.
There’s no way she should have fluffed that.
I don’t know whether anyone else noticed the exchange between March and Sian when she awarded a goal kick to Millwall which was clearly a corner kick, but (whilst I’m not a pro lip reader) Solly references “specsavers” as he throws the ball to Martin.
All this guff about sexism and misogyny only proves my point. If that was a male assistant ref he wouldn’t be officiating in such a high profile game next week, he’d be running the line at Southend or Morecambe...but because it’s a lady, she’ll be doing a PL game. She won’t be sanctioned because she is lacking a knob and it’s all about inclusion rather than aptitude these days.
You're talking shit there. This has never happened
surlyseagull
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- Aug 23, 2008
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disagree ,most refs /lino`s are on a hiding to nothing from players managers fans alike and abused on a weekly basis at games on social media etc and they expect it so why not her ,not saying its right but am sure she wouldnt have it any other way.
Yes of course people are going to remember her as she is the only female like Mike Dean is the only utter shyster.
seagulls4ever
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Where's the thread on Chris Kavanagh? He's the one who had a truly poor game.