beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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so are the many thousands of children who are going in to gender reassignment through drugs or even surgery.
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[Albion] Sam Smith Non Binary
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so are the many thousands of children who are going in to gender reassignment through drugs or even surgery.
People comparing this to Prince changing has name to a symbol are way off the mark. Prince did this as a protest against Warner Bros records who owned his name and all his music at the time, leaving him with no control over his own career. It had nothing to do with gender and pronouns etc. The current debate about gender is all bullshit as any sensible thinking person knows. As Prince himself said, let a woman be a woman and a man be a man.
I have to say I'm too old for all of this. I'm a humanist so love and respect everyone and I feel people are free to express as they wish .. however, it's also OK not to understand or be influenced by it.
Society is now being biased towards minorities, they need to be heard, respected and treated equally but no more than that, we've gone too far with all of this.
My Son, when in Year 8 was asked how he wished to be identified, he, being my Son, wrote "Squirrel", I kid you not. This has remained on his school record ever since and he's now in bloody sixth form. In my day we'd have been caned for being a tw*t, perhaps too far but he should have been reprimanded in some way.
Men have willies and ladies have gardens, if we all start at that point we may get through this.
Society is now being biased towards minorities, they need to be heard, respected and treated equally but no more than that, we've gone too far with all of this.
My Son, when in Year 8 was asked how he wished to be identified, he, being my Son, wrote "Squirrel", I kid you not. This has remained on his school record ever since and he's now in bloody sixth form. In my day we'd have been caned for being a tw*t, perhaps too far but he should have been reprimanded in some way.
Men have willies and ladies have gardens, if we all start at that point we may get through this.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
He also said "Then you jerk your body like a horny pony would, now run and tell yo' mama 'bout that".
I got a clip round the ear.
schmunk
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He's in a bit of trouble for that now...
Luckily it can be all swept under the rug... again.
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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there was definitely sexuality/androgyny involved, look at the composition of the symbol. its a usful comparison, as shows how we dont need a vociferous lobby hounding and vilifying anyone who uses an incorrect pronoun.
Yet another who seems to be conflating sex with gender. You also seem to be confusing gender identity with body dysmorphia.
So why do you think is it wrong? I’m genuinely interested in hearing your answer.
Seriously? Presumably that's if people are doing it on purpose to take the piss, rather than for innocent mistakes?
Reading the comments Sam's made on the subject, they just seem very confused. If they don't want to be called a man, that's fine by me. Sam said they think like a woman sometimes - what does that mean? How is a woman supposed to think differently than a man? I find that sexist to be honest. Apparently Sam puts on weight in places women put on weight. Yeah, right
And they described being non-binary as being "your own special creation". Oh good grief.I think that applies to sex (male or female biological and physical structure) rather than gender, which refers to socially constructed ideas.
The symbol did suggest this, but he never made it about that. When the Warner Bros contract ended in 2000 and he regained control over his own career, he reverted to Prince - or maybe he just did that as he noticed that he did in fact still have a penis.
He's in a bit of trouble for that now...
Luckily his privilege will see him through although I fear this isn't the worst case that could be laid against him! *This, of course, isn't his hand around her waist he has chubbier fingers ... honest!
* Alas you're missing his very devious marketing plan, whenever this non-type of story comes out people click to listen to his music, i.e. "is he really as bad as people are saying?" Just check Apple charts etc this week, he'll feature.
Seriously? Presumably that's if people are doing it on purpose to take the piss, rather than for innocent mistakes?
Reading the comments Sam's made on the subject, they just seem very confused. If they don't want to be called a man, that's fine by me. Sam said they think like a woman sometimes - what does that mean? How is a woman supposed to think differently than a man? I find that sexist to be honest. Apparently Sam puts on weight in places women put on weight. Yeah, right
Maybe he was in the bath one night like Mel Gibson in What Women Want?
Seriously? Presumably that's if people are doing it on purpose to take the piss, rather than for innocent mistakes?
Reading the comments Sam's made on the subject, they just seem very confused. If they don't want to be called a man, that's fine by me. Sam said they think like a woman sometimes - what does that mean? How is a woman supposed to think differently than a man? I find that sexist to be honest. Apparently Sam puts on weight in places women put on weight. Yeah, right
as have I .... it's called Greggs!
BadFish
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- Oct 19, 2003
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My understanding of it is that sex is non malleable, I agree. However the discussion here is that gender is absolutely maleable. It is a social construct that we have placed on sex as expected behaviours. Seeing gender as binary cannot explain why we have gradations of manliness and femininity. Seeing gender as a spectrum is a much more effective way of analyzing it. Men are not all the same, some are way more 'in touch with their feminine side' (as we used to call it) and some are much more blokey. This is similar for women. I think this is a far more useful way of discussion people' feeling and behaviours. I am not sure what is wrong with viewing people in this way.
True, but surely one should be able to define and describe themself in a way that they feel comfortable. This is again the problem with seeing gender as simplistically male or female. There are many people out there that do not find these definitions adequately describe how they feel. I suppose that this is why we have these new descriptions that we are all trying to get our heads around. I don't expect I will understand them all until I am required.
I am still trying to get to grips with this gender issue so to start trying to grapple with peoples feelings about age and species is beyond me at present (again I probably won't understand this until it is necessary for me to do so). A broad answer to your question would be that you go as far as is reasonable with causing pain or discomfort to others. I believe that their are people who identify as animals "furries" i believe they are called? They don't seem to be doing much harm to others. My wife met one at college and she found no problem with it. While people are staying the right side of the law and morality, I don't really have much issue with how they spend their time or view themselves.
This seems a bit nuts. I haven't read your links as yet.
Where I am at with this notion is really the concept of seeing gender as a spectrum. I don't think I will understand the links to other things until I have got my head around this idea. I am not sure how the ideas link together at present (I would love a link to some information if you have it). Or how they link to Anorexia, However, I would say that in all cases I hope that people are given the treatment and help that they need top live a happy and healthy life.
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BadFish
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- Oct 19, 2003
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I would disagree that this is an example of how "F's up this gender spectrum really is and the dangers it can cause". IT looks to me more like an example of how someone is being unreasonable and obnoxious about something, and they happen to be transgender. If anyone were claiming that the gender spectrum would stop people from being knobheads then this would be quality evidence that it clearly doesn't. However no one is claiming that and this article shoes that feeling comfortable with your gender identification clearly doesn't stop you from being unreasonable and a ****. Who would have thought it?
Interestingly the Guardian were not schtum about this incident they had this to say.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/27/male-genitalia-week-in-patriarchy-women
Which makes perfect sense to me.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...er-17-month-old-baby-childs-grandparents.html
This was in todays Mail Online (yes, I know). Personally I think this child will grow up to be very confused, and will certainly struggle in early life to fit in. Hobbit and Jake are fulfilling their liberal agenda and free-thinking ways through imposing it on their baby, but I'm not entirely sure its going to lead to a happy well-adjusted kid in the long run.
This was in todays Mail Online (yes, I know). Personally I think this child will grow up to be very confused, and will certainly struggle in early life to fit in. Hobbit and Jake are fulfilling their liberal agenda and free-thinking ways through imposing it on their baby, but I'm not entirely sure its going to lead to a happy well-adjusted kid in the long run.