[Albion] Drinking culture

SeagullDubai · Apr 18, 2019

maffew said:
Yes. And I think that all clubs should have a supporters representation at or near board level with this in mind. As they squeeze money from individuals at every opportunity to do so, the combined revenue this generates should be respected accordingly

Great idea. We should also pick the team.

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maffew · Apr 18, 2019

SeagullDubai said:
Great idea. We should also pick the team.

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Perhaps a step too far. Just the strikers. And the left backs... And pies. Oh and the kit design

sussex_guy2k2 · Apr 18, 2019

maffew said:
Perhaps a step too far. Just the strikers. And the left backs... And pies. Oh and the kit design

Strikers? Plural?

Cowfold Seagull · Apr 18, 2019

Thunder Bolt said:
It's all Chinese whispers. I think the original rumours concerned a casino, which is gambling as opposed to excessive drinking.

Well if the casino rumours are true that makes it twice as bad, as l bet they got pissed whilst they were throwing their money way. Those two things tend to go together.

Cowfold Seagull · Apr 18, 2019

Harry Wilson's tackle said:
For a variety of reasons, some obvious, others inferred, there is no 'perhaps' about it.

Well, l just like to be polite you understand. :wink:

Herr Tubthumper · Apr 18, 2019

SeagullDubai said:
Great idea. We should also pick the team.

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Not a bad idea.

Thunder Bolt · Apr 18, 2019

Cowfold Seagull said:
Well if the casino rumours are true that makes it twice as bad, as l bet they got pissed whilst they were throwing their money way. Those two things tend to go together.

Yes, yes, no smoke without fire eh? Where are the photos? Everyone has a phone now, so it's easy to take a picture for social media. Even a back view taken craftily would do.

BrickTamland · Apr 18, 2019

Mustafa said:
In Europe they can drink every day, responsibly, in small amounts and mostly with food.

In the Nordic countries you won't find them drinking mid-week, but they will get absolutely plastered on the weekend.

In the UK, we seem to have combined the two. We have a huge drinking culture - who out of all of us doesn't get pissed mid-week from time to time??

Not entirely true: not in Sweden at least. ‘After Work’ drinks are quite a common thing (most bars/pubs have special promotions between 5-7), not getting pissed but certainly a few beers

Herr Tubthumper · Apr 18, 2019

Thunder Bolt said:
Yes, yes, no smoke without fire eh? Where are the photos? Everyone has a phone now, so it's easy to take a picture for social media. Even a back view taken craftily would do.

In most casinos, you’re not allowed to take photos.

Herr Tubthumper · Apr 18, 2019

Plooks said:
I disagree. The are professional athletes. The staff need to know their blood levels and contents so they can tailor/change their diet and check all sorts of other information. Why would you not? It would be negligent not to have all that data. They should be following strict instructions about what they eat and drink and when and how much they do down to the gram. Its their job!

I’m not quite sure which part of my post/posts you’re disagreeing with.

Herr Tubthumper · Apr 18, 2019

Plooks said:
I am saying there is no ethical boundary as it is the staffs job to know as much as they can about the players bodies.

In your opinion no. But others take a different view.

Gwylan · Apr 18, 2019

maffew said:
It intrigues me that cricket and rugby players mis behaviour seems to be percieved differently to footballers.

Really? Did you miss Ben Stokes and Alex Hales being dropped from the England squad (Stokes for the second time)? Or Monty Panesar having his Sussex contract terminated? Or Jesse Ryder's repeated bans from the NZ squad? Or Ben Duckett's swift removal from the England squad? Or Andrew Symonds having his Australia career cut short? Or Andrew Flintoff being stripped of the England vice captaincy?

There is a bit more tolerance in rugby but even that's limited - just ask Danny Cipriani

Springal · Apr 18, 2019

Blue Valkyrie said:
I can certainly *guess* who the 3 are.

The club need to get on top of this and replace them all in the summer - whichever league we are.

It'll be an absolute disgrace if their boozing costs us our PL place.

No-one cared about drinking culture when things were going well. Even less so about drinking culture that meant we couldn't win the Championship with 3 games to do so

Thunder Bolt · Apr 18, 2019

Springal said:
No-one cared about drinking culture when things were going well. Even less so about drinking culture that meant we couldn't win the Championship with 3 games to do so

That is the key. If these players were out drinking and gambling before Christmas, nobody seemed bothered. So, if it wasn't affecting their performance then, why is it now?

maffew · Apr 18, 2019

Gwylan said:
Really? Did you miss Ben Stokes and Alex Hales being dropped from the England squad (Stokes for the second time)? Or Monty Panesar having his Sussex contract terminated? Or Jesse Ryder's repeated bans from the NZ squad? Or Ben Duckett's swift removal from the England squad? Or Andrew Symonds having his Australia career cut short? Or Andrew Flintoff being stripped of the England vice captaincy?

There is a bit more tolerance in rugby but even that's limited - just ask Danny Cipriani

A little yes. I'm not talking about how the clubs deal with it, more peoples tolerance.. Its mostly cricket and rugby in this neck of the woods. I dont think anyone would pay much attention if they were out on the lash mid season

Herr Tubthumper · Apr 18, 2019

Plooks said:
If they don't take that information how can they keep the players in peak condition? How can you monitor hormone, glucose etc levels over the season? These can give clues to fatigue and enable players be rested and have their diet changed. You wouldn't send a race car out on track without looking and monotoring the engine would you!?

We seem to be talking about different things. I said there is an ethical boundary between testing for things like “hormones, glucose” and outright testing for substance abuse. You are arguing about something else

SeagullDubai · Apr 18, 2019

maffew said:
Perhaps a step too far. Just the strikers. And the left backs... And pies. Oh and the kit design

And free beer whenever we lose

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SeagullDubai · Apr 18, 2019

If indeed there is a drinking culture it would explain why many of our team seem unable to play in both boxes

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Herr Tubthumper · Apr 18, 2019

Plooks said:
They would be testing for substance abuse too. That is illegal and if caught the players would be banned. Why would the club let them? Also it reduces performance so they would test for it for that reason.

I don’t know what they’re testing for. As I said, a typical set of “health and performance” blood and urine tests don’t usually include drug and alcohol screening. And there is an ethical boundary when you cross from the former to the latter. As I said, my gut feeling is they don’t test for the latter. This is just my opinion. If your opinion is different then fine.

portlock seagull · Apr 18, 2019

Is this thread still rumbling on?! There is no drinking culture nor is there any evidence. What is there left to discuss? Actually don’t answer that because this thread just needs to fall off Page 1 and disappear

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