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[Albion] Who was the last player to break through from the youth team/development squad?
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Hang on: you want Semi back as manager to provide a pathway to the first team?
Dirk Lehmann's Python
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Yeah get Forster Caskey back too
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BensGrandad
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The most successful for us has been Dunk and March who makes it in the future remains to be seen but I dont hold out too much hope for Gyokeres. I believe the most likely are Molumby Sanders and Sanchez and possibly Connolly at a lower level.
Newcastle play Dummett regularly who is a 'vintage' academy graduate like Dunk. they were also starting Sean Longstaff regularly until he knackered his knee.
The Bournemouth defender is Simpson? they have played other 'youngsters' of course in Lewis Cook and David Brooks. Those haven't come through at AFCB but they've brought them in and actually played them, rather than chucking them out of loan.
Your assessment of Southampton is harsh. It might dipped from the dizzy heights of Bale, Shaw and Walcott, but over the last season or so, they've still regularly fielded academy products in Ward-Prowse, Stephens, McQueen, Targett, and this season given PL debuts to Jan Valery, Callum Slattery and Michael Obafemi
macbeth
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Is this true? If so, those who jokingly say CH coaches all the attacking talent out of players may have a case
AZ Gull
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Sussex Nomad
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Nah we're just here for the muppets that can't see past their noses.
Machiavelli
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OK. I wrote: "You'll find that clubs need to name eight home grown players (HGPs) in order to name a 25 man squad."
You wrote your first sentence (or it might have been two, but I'm referring to what ends in the word 'squad'). Now tell me why what I wrote isn't quite.
Perkino
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There is no point in naming a 25 man squad that contains such players when it limits the development of younger players and prolongs the opportunity of having players progress from the academy
AZ Gull
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I'm not really sure what point you are making here. Buying Steele and Burn did nothing to prevent Hughton using the likes of Sanchez and White, if he was so inclined (which he clearly wasn't). As both still qualified as U-21 players this season they didn't need to be named in the 25-man squad.
Perkino
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But having such players in the squad means he has a larger number of 1st players to try and keep happy, they would expect to get a run out in cup games and be on the bench when injuries and suspensions impact the matchday 18.
AZ Gull
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Hughton clearly had no intention of using academy players in the Premier League. When we had only two fit and available centre-backs for three matches in December, rather than put Ben White (or Ben Barclay, who was named in the 25-man squad) on the bench, he went with NO recognised back-up centre-back in the 18. The problem isn't the size of the 25-man squad (which was actually only 23 strong from February onwards), it is Hughton's lack of trust in youth.
Perkino
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Agreed and that lack of trust has in both seasons in the premier league led him to have 3 goalkeepers and 4 centre backs when these players have had 0 appearances between them. They have however been involved in matchday squads on the bench and I think there needs to be a shift in mentality to create opportunities for such players to gain experience and game time or more trust from the manager to include youngsters
Machiavelli
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That might be the case, although I disagree with you. That said, it's an entirely separate point than the one that was raised.
Kalimantan Gull
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We've had a Category One Academy for five years.
But only one attached to a premier league club for two years. The best kids will want to go to Premier league clubs, that's just natural, so we can attract better talent now than five years ago
Kalimantan Gull
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But we go back to Bissouma making his debut at 21, if they're good enough he'll pick them. Just because White and Barclay are our best young cb's it doesn't mean they're good enough (yet) and if he rather play Bruno or Bernardo there and have more attacking options on the bench that's a fair enough call.
Thunder Bolt
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Teddy Jenks, playing for England U17s has scored against Sweden.
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AZ Gull
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Unfortunately, today's 3-1 win was insufficient to see England progress to the knockout stages. Haydon Roberts played every minute of the three matches for England (Jenks was unused in the first game and made a late substitute appearance in the second game).
In the same tournament, Albion's Matt Everitt scored the Republic of Ireland goal in their 1-1 draw with Greece and also played the whole match in their 1-1 draw with the Czech Republic. He has played the whole game so far against Belgium (about 8 minutes left). Currently 1-1, they need to win to advance.
Lush
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The Alexander-Arnold approach. And what you get is that fearlessness that comes with playing a skilful 20-year-old.