Would you be as confident about your first 11 if Wilf and RLC are missing ?
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[Football] The "Where will Zaha go?" Summer 2018 thread
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Would you be as confident about your first 11 if Wilf and RLC are missing ?
Sheebo
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Are you forgetting we beat you too - in arguably a more important game as it turned out?
You just finished above us when you should have finished waaaaay further above us with your 5 year headstart. You also got there through cheating so it doesn’t really count does it? I will also point out that’s the first time in decades you’ve finished above us when we’ve been in the same league - but it meant little to us as we were very successful and stayed up against the odds
TypicalPalace
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RLC is a loss and would love him back but he is replaceable. We didnt see enough of him really last season and didnt hit the heights consistently enough. We know the importance of Wilf. No Wilf puts a totally different reflection on things. Pretty confident thats not a concern right now though. Or until January..
pasty
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Outside of the top 6, I don't think there are any two clubs in the entire Premier League where one is "far superior" to the other. I missed only 1 home match last season and I felt we were only totally outclassed twice, by Liverpool and Chelsea. Although I'm glad we got Citeh out the way first match
Miles ahead?
Four years of Premier league football and you beat us by a meagre four points. If you want to get back to basics, those are the basic facts, fella.
At the end of the day, two things attract the better players: 1) money and 2) prospects
1) After four years of Premier league money, I suspect you're still able to pay better than we are, but the longer we stay in this division, the less that becomes and issue - and I suspect we probably won't go down this season.
2) Well, where to start? Your best players either want to leave or were on loan in the first place, we are signing players we've tracked for years. You play in a ramshackle 1980s thing with crap training facilities, we play in a much bigger, fit-for-Premier League stadium and have a magnificent training centre. Our foundations are solid, you change your manager 3 times a season.
Give it 3 or 4 more years and you won't be able to live with us.
No, you're right. Zaha definitely won't be leaving Palace. *snigger*
TypicalPalace
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You see I just dont see how you can say that. I feel all of these would make your 11. In a palace/BHA 11 all of these would make it
PVA - best goal scoring lb in the league imo
Luka
Tomkins
Sakho - has been a starter for France, PSG, Liverpool
AWB - still an unknown quantity to those outside of Palace granted
Townsend
Benteke - jury out on him 17goals season before last. If we forgive him this discretion premier league proven
Andone (la liga), Bernardo and Balogun (Bundesliga), Bissouma (Ligue Un), and Alireza (best player in Eredivisie) are all 'unknowns', because they haven't played in the Premier League. But your new free transfer keeper, from Spain, has unquestionably improved your starting XI?
Is that how it works?
TypicalPalace
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Miles ahead?
Four years of Premier league football and you beat us by a meagre four points. If you want to get back to basics, those are the basic facts, fella.
At the end of the day, two things attract the better players: 1) money and 2) prospects
1) After four years of Premier league money, I suspect you're still able to pay better than we are, but the longer we stay in this division, the less that becomes and issue - and I suspect we probably won't go down this season.
2) Well, where to start? Your best players either want to leave or were on loan in the first place, we are signing players we've tracked for years. You play in a ramshackle 1980s thing with crap training facilities, we play in a much bigger, fit-for-Premier League stadium and have a magnificent training centre. Our foundations are solid, you change your manager 3 times a season.
Give it 3 or 4 more years and you won't be able to live with us.
saying it and doing it are two different things. We've done it consistently for 6 seasons. Get back to me then yeah
Do I really need to show examples of clubs with lovely stadiums and training grounds who have been and gone from the Premier League?
PVA and Luka would have a good case (though he'd be competing directly with Stephens, who is a very good player).
You list your two centre-backs over ours. You might want to go and look at the actual facts - at last year's PL stats, for tackles, interceptions, blocks, headed clearances, etc. Or just at the two sides' goals conceded.
Your kid at full back has played half a dozen senior games. You have no idea how he'll show up this season. From the goals I saw on TV, he has a lot to do yet, despite the (understandable) hype.
I wouldn't swap Knockaert or Izquierdo for Townsend, let alone the new chap.
And Beneteke? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
lawros left foot
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At the moment the Zaha situation is a lose, lose for Palace. If you keep him, you have little money to strengthen as even Roy knows. That’s without the possibility of him throwing his toys out the pram, which I don’t think he would do. If he has a dip in form, some elements in your support is not very , er, supportive and could turn on him.
If you sell and get , say , 50 million after MUFC have taken their cut, you will have to spend every penny of that to replace a player so important to you, and the way you play, and so late in the window.
As I say, I can’t see a winning scenario for your lot in this.
If you sell and get , say , 50 million after MUFC have taken their cut, you will have to spend every penny of that to replace a player so important to you, and the way you play, and so late in the window.
As I say, I can’t see a winning scenario for your lot in this.
TypicalPalace
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Our nucleus is premier league proven/British players. You on the other hand.. 'gel' springs to mind (as in gelling together!)
examples are
PVA
Benteke
Schlupp
Tomkins
Sakho
Mcarthur
Kelly
TypicalPalace
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Our fans are not very supportive? really? Do you know anything of how Wilf is felt of by the palace fans. Fake news
TypicalPalace
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Exactly the reason why he will not leave. No chance he is going anywhere with two weeks of the window left. What would be the incentive to Palace, makes no sense.
I don't think you need to worry TOO much about the 'gel' part. You're ignoring that we still have every single one of the starting XI who did pretty well last season. We're not about to start the season with a whole new team, and hope they get on okay.
Betfair Bozo
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In fairness to [MENTION=27478]TypicalPalace[/MENTION], you could pluck any 10-year-old playing football from any park in the country and stick him in the Palace goal and it would improve their starting Xi.
You have only managed to do it by CHEATING.. going into admin and starting again..it must really hurt to see what we have now and what you could have had if you hadn’t spunked so much money on dross
lawros left foot
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Throat spitting gestures, the whole team booed off at half time, offering players ‘ outside ‘ cos they are not trying?
It’s not beyond the bounds of possibility, if some of your lot think he’s not trying , they could turn.
TypicalPalace
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Izquierdo - is a pacy headless chicken
Knockeart for me had one good game - united. He def divides opinion in your fan base.
Would not swap either for Townsend - consistent 7/10 and hard working.
I was one of Benteke's biggest critics last season he has a lot to prove - and I am concerned But if you are judging on his overall record, far and above anything you have.