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Rotherham United vs Brighton & Hove Albion *** Official Match Thread ***
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seagullsovergrimsby
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symyjym
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Not really, Hyypia had to use JFC and Gardner, and the players made errors that cost us a lot of points. He tried to make us play with wing backs like the top Championship teams do. Nothing wrong with that philosophy and he may have turned his bad luck into good luck.The fact is we have been poor all season and it is a blessing that there are a few teams who have done worse than us.
midnight_rendezvous
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clippedgull
Hotdogs, extra onions
Carayol upbeat and positive after 'losing a game we controlled'. BBC Sussex
The fact is we have been poor all season and it is a blessing that there are a few teams who have done worse than us.
Yes we have been poor thatcan't be denied, but Hyypia made us try to play both wing backs pushed up at the same time, with the idea the defensive midfielders slotting in, which simply could not work, when it leaves JFC (or Crofts at Brentford) in a foot race with a fast winger. As for other top championship teams playing that way, I think that is highly debateable, having seen every team this season, not one has left themselves as exposed as we did under Hyypia.
Regarding having to play Gardner and JFC, I disagree, he preferred these players over Holla and Ince is more accurate.
nwgull
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This. We were in the bottom 3 when he came; now we will probably stay up even if we don't get another point.
symyjym
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I seem to remember that Ince was dropped after he jumped out of the way of the ball, when in a wall defending a free kick and we conceded. Holla isn't being used that much at the moment. Our improvement has probably been more down to Kayal and a couple of Calde hero moments than anything else.
severnside gull
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None at all
Icy Gull
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Holla was used initially though, when we moved out of the bottom 3. In terms of Ince and the free-kick, surely (though apparently not - re Hyypia), anyone could have seen that his overall play was better than JFC and Gardner.......
In terms of Calderon, Hughton is the one who has reinvented him in midfield, I'm really not sure Hyypia would have ever done that.
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The apologists will tell you that we couldn't match what Burnley were offering and that they were in a much better position than us at the time. This totally ignores the fact that we didn't offer him a decent wage rise and contract extension a season before his contract was up. Arrogance or cluelessness or a combination of both. Anyone with a brain could see what a committed and skilful never say die player he was, and he was very young. we made a massive gaff letting Murray go, we then repeated it with Barnes and are fed the line by the club and the club apologists on here that 750k was a great deal for a player out of contract at the end of the season.....who we didn't bother to replace.
If you were a Barnes hater, please save yourself the time wasted in responding to this post
Barnes was in the same position as Ince is now with a contract running out in 14 months time. Ince knows Premier League clubs are interested in him so does he sign an extension like Elliot Bennett did or refuse to sign and force Albion's hand in January ?
Gazwag
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It was the same game today as Birmingham 21 away games ago so no there isn't
symyjym
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There are many things that we will never know. The team has been blowing hot and cold, and we have lacked quality under both managers. It's not about comparing the managers anyway, the squad overall has been average at best. I think that even if Hughton was with us at the start of the season he would have still had the problems that Hyypia had.
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Some club, can't remember who, offered Watford around 10 million for Troy Deeney pre season, he chose to stay as the club didn't need to sell him. We never inspire that loyalty in players do we?
Edit
It was Leicester
http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sp...er_as_third_Leicester_bid_rejected/?ref=var_0
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Publius Ovidius
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Pathetic. Just pathetic
St Leonards Seagull
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I just can't understand why he plays, he just looks so disinterested in the game.
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[MENTION=1840]liverpool_one[/MENTION] Thanks for the thumbs down on a scoreline that means we'll probably stay up this season.
Ludensian Gull
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Just got back home & have to say that was bloody awful, not seen a huge amount of games this season but find it hard to imagine them playing any worse..