"It was kept at his family home in Kent and was only presented to Lord's, where it remains ..."
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[Cricket] England vs Australia Third Ashes Test - Leeds 22nd-26th August 2019
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"It was kept at his family home in Kent and was only presented to Lord's, where it remains ..."
Sussex Nomad
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I think, without googling there were times we didn't play each other for three or four years, it's all become a bit Ryder Cup.
Sussex Nomad
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My bad.
Oh ok.
That's odd. Surely it was to be a trophy for the winning team, presented to the winning captain (like any other trophy in team sport), but you wouldn't expect the captain to take ownership of it.
No idea where I've made that up from.
Thanks. Can't believe Nomad made me doubt myself. Last bloody time I listen to him.
Was that something to do with Packer?
Sussex Nomad
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No, Packer had nothing to do with or influenced anything to do with the Ashes.
Yes, the aforementioned 79/80 series was just after the 78/79 series. Australia played both England and the Windies over 6 tests, They played two series in successive years as the Packer players had returned to the fold. That's why England won 5-1 in 78/79 and lost 3-0 a year later - having Lillee, Thomson, Chappell and Marsh back made a difference ... who knew?
You can tell that one of my specialist subjects for Mastermind was The Ashes ... I wasn't allowed to choose it though
Aha - that was it - it was some hastily arranged thing wasn't it, after the deal with Packer. So wasn't really thought of as fully 'official' in terms of the Ashes.
Sussex Nomad
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The obvious retort, you were on Mastermind?
Money money, after 2005. Show the
M the urn. Went out there for Melbourne and Sydney. 3-0 down before I landed and 5-0 loss.
I was ... but did really badly,
I replaced the Ashes with the history of Sussex cricket but it was my second subject and didn't get past the first round.
Thankfully it was long ago and only El Presidente, who was in the audience, will remember my failure
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Still an excellent effort to be on there. I commend you whole heartedly.
Just reading some wiki, and although the term was first coined as a piss take by the Aussies after winning at the Oval (being the ashes of English cricket), a 1908 newspaper report said the ladies presented 'a tiny silver urn, containing what they termed 'the ashes of Australian cricket.' to Bligh (the England captain).
But the urn is made of terracotta, not silver? Confusing. [MENTION=25]Gwylan[/MENTION]?
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One thing I do know, I was saying on Friday/Saturday burn the bails again. What do I know?!?!
You know that our only hope was for us to write them off.
The urn is terracotta and it was presented in January 1883 not 1908
I wouldn't believe everything you read on wiki
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They really do choke though. As said previously there is a stat that points them out as the biggest chokers in test cricket history. You never get beaten by the sandpaper mill until you are beaten. I'm learning that now.
Looks like they've been twice:
"the urn remains in the MCC Museum at Lord's; it has however been taken to Australia to be put on touring display on two occasions: as part of the Australian Bicentenary celebrations in 1988, and to accompany the Ashes series in 2006–07. "