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[Food] Bean to cup coffee machines



disgruntled h blocker

Active member
Oct 16, 2003
819
Ampfield
Buy a secondhand Gaggia Classic (not the 2016 version) - loads knocking around on ebay/facebook marketplace, then a good Burr Grinder - like an Iberital MC2 (from HappyDonkey.co.uk) and a decent stamper. Job done! You can replace the steam wand with one from a Rancilio Silvia to make a very good coffee.
 




Palacefinder General

Well-known member
Apr 5, 2019
2,594
Heaped teaspoon, fill 2/3 of a cup with boiling water poured from a height to froth it, splash of milk if you want to, job done. Nescafé Americano Azera, for all of us too lazy to even use and wash out our cafetières, but who want a marvellous tasting cup of coffee. I normally wouldn't touch instant, and certainly not Nescafé, but this stuff... :wink:

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Gilliver's Travels

Peripatetic
Jul 5, 2003
2,916
Brighton Marina Village
I'm with disgruntled h-blocker here. Mine's a pre-2016 Gaggia Classic (no perfect crema widget for me!), and a Sage Smart Grinder Pro - excellent espresso results, total outlay circa £450. Current bean of choice: Waitrose Italian.

But coffee's all a matter of personal preferences, and the OP wanted a bean to cup machine. And why not?. But for me that's cheating - the equivalent of conquering Everest by helicopter, or visiting Starbuck's. But heck, each to their own.
 


Lyndhurst 14

Well-known member
Jan 16, 2008
5,125
I went back to the trusty burr grinder and boden french press.

Once you've used a burr grinder you would never go back to a blade. Use a Capresso with Costco's house blend beans for a great cuppa
 






swindonseagull

Well-known member
Aug 6, 2003
9,264
Swindon, but used to be Manila
Definitely worth getting one if you like decent coffee. Generally, the more you spend the more you get. Pro machines in coffee shops are several £k for a reason.

I’d suggest you focus on the following things: definitely get a double boiler, the quality of the grinder, the ability to fill the water tank from the top, the ability to adjust the fineness of the grind (dosing too if you’re prepared to pay for both), the ability to create good foam (if you like that). I got a decent machine that allows full automatic down to near full manual. Expensive, but if you time your purchase right, you can decent discounts off in the shop, plus a rebate from the manufacturer. By waiting 4 months, I got 30% off mine.

Thanks all makes sense
Even a shop selling plenty of machines has advised waiting for Black Friday
My trusty Bosch Tassimo will keep me going.

Looking at a Krups or Delonghi both around £300
Both have the adjustable grinding option.
 




Gilliver's Travels

Peripatetic
Jul 5, 2003
2,916
Brighton Marina Village
As used by my old mother-in-law. She was Italian. But conventional wisdom is that coffee beans should never be exposed to boiling water. Instead, 93C is about right. And those appalling mocha-type pots work by forcing bubbling, boiling water through the ground coffee.

So, all that time, that old lady (along with millions of other Italians) had been getting it wrong. But she liked it. And so did we. Coffee? In the end, it's all a matter of taste.
 




Creaky

Well-known member
Mar 26, 2013
3,842
Hookwood - Nr Horley
We have had a Krups bean to cup machine for about 6 years now. The first one stopped grinding the beans after about 2 years - Krups were very good, arranged collection and returned the repaired machine within 3 days! It failed again after about 6 months and despite being out of warranty the replaced it with a brand new machine. This has been going now for over three years and still makes a superb cup of coffee.
 


Notters

Well-known member
Oct 20, 2003
24,869
Guiseley
I too have gone through a whole range of coffee machines.
The one we have at the moment delivers probably the best cup of coffee I’ve tasted.
It’s a nespresso machine that uses pods.
Luvvly cuppa and the machine won’t break the bank

My in laws have a Nespresso and the supposedly strongest pods produce coffee that tastes like watered down piss!
 


FatSuperman

Well-known member
Feb 25, 2016
2,830
I’ve gone through the following over the years;

Expensive built in bean to cup machine (gaggenau)
Nespresso
Hario v60, burr grinder
DeLonghi bean to cup

The biggest difference for me was buying freshly roasted coffee from a local roaster. Amazing difference. But as many have said - everybody's tastes will vary. The grinder & v60 combo is great, but actually if you don’t have quarter of an hour spare to make a coffee, it’ll just piss you off. If you get a Nespresso you may as well just use a premium instant and heat milk in the microwave. Not a judgement, just the same result for free. A half decent bean to cup will give you a great compromise. It’s never going to be coffee shop level but that’s mainly because you will be using coffee roasted 6 months ago and you don’t really know what you’re doing. I’m ok with that
 








RandyWanger

Je suis rôti de boeuf
Mar 14, 2013
6,032
Done a Frexit, now in London
My in laws have a Nespresso and the supposedly strongest pods produce coffee that tastes like watered down piss!

Not sure what piss tastes like, or even watered down piss by my issue with those Nespresso pods is the coffee is never strong enough, it's like luke warm water with a hint of coffee in the background.

Currently enjoying a Gail's Coffee :)
 




loco61

Well-known member
Jan 30, 2004
1,678
Hove GOSBTS
we use a Jura c70
it´s just done its second mug of the day

very happy with it
does take quite a bit of space up
and defintely wasnt cheap
must be three years old now
and as others have indicated it depends what coffee beans i use … stronger the better
currently Lavazza full bodied beans
 


GOM

living vicariously
Aug 8, 2005
3,225
Leeds - but not the dirty bit
We use Nescafe Dolce Gusto pod machine. The stronger 'intenso' pods are very good, they suit me anyway, and the Ristretto espresso pods are definitely strong enough for me.
 


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