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[Albion] Davy Propper











A1X

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Genuinely baffled why, with Gross out for so long and our team setup to play with a #10, we haven't pushed him forward and played Kayal alongside Stephens more this season. Genuinely don't get it.
 




Justice

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Jun 21, 2012
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Genuinely baffled why, with Gross out for so long and our team setup to play with a #10, we haven't pushed him forward and played Kayal alongside Stephens more this season. Genuinely don't get it.
Yep he plays this role with Holland and actually scores to. CH know best though.
 


A1X

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Yep he plays this role with Holland and actually scores to. CH know best though.

Well to be fair we have been really successful since we switched to 4-3-3.

Wait, hang on...
 


blue-shifted

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Feb 20, 2004
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a galaxy far far away
Davy is a better player than he's showing at the moment. But he has a question to answer about his bottle. Yes he can play pretty passes with the outside of his foot, but can he influence a niggly game when we're bang out of form and the opposition manager has targeted you as someone who doesn't fancy a confrontation. Over to you Davy, you'll get to answer the question tomorrow
 




sussex_guy2k2

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Jun 6, 2014
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Davy is a better player than he's showing at the moment. But he has a question to answer about his bottle. Yes he can play pretty passes with the outside of his foot, but can he influence a niggly game when we're bang out of form and the opposition manager has targeted you as someone who doesn't fancy a confrontation. Over to you Davy, you'll get to answer the question tomorrow

He makes the fifth most tackles in our team, the fourth most interceptions and makes the sixth most number of fouls. He gets as stuck in as anyone else, he just looks much classier than everyone else in our team and tends to be in the right place a lot more to pick up second balls. So I've no idea where anyone gets this idea from that he's not up for a fight.
 




BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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Genuinely baffled why, with Gross out for so long and our team setup to play with a #10, we haven't pushed him forward and played Kayal alongside Stephens more this season. Genuinely don't get it.

simple really because the man who decides CH thinks Bissouma is better played forward and Propper alongside Stephens than Kayal anywhere in midfield
 




mattislost

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Dec 12, 2011
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In my opinion he is out classiest midfielder. The issue is that he is shackled by this formation. He has looked at his best on the rare occasions that he has been allowed to get forwards
 


Braggfan

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May 12, 2014
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I find Propper frustrating. The potential is there to be class. But I find myself thinking in games, where is he? Then he makes a pass, that no one else in the team can make and I think "that's international quality", then he goes back to being carried by the team.
 






Weststander

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In my opinion he is out classiest midfielder. The issue is that he is shackled by this formation. He has looked at his best on the rare occasions that he has been allowed to get forwards

If true, no wonder we're in trouble.

Unless you're an exceptional player (Vicente, Pirlo, Le Tissier), having pace and mobility is vital to ACM's/no.10's. Unfortunately Propper has none. When opponents counter attack us, we get overloaded.
 




Nixonator

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Feb 8, 2016
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He makes the fifth most tackles in our team, the fourth most interceptions and makes the sixth most number of fouls. He gets as stuck in as anyone else, he just looks much classier than everyone else in our team and tends to be in the right place a lot more to pick up second balls. So I've no idea where anyone gets this idea from that he's not up for a fight.

Did you not see him completely bottle a challenge on Saturday at 0-0?

Not strong enough.
 


zefarelly

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I don't think he's that slow, trouble is more that he's tactically stifled and playing in a position he's not comfortable with, both he and Gross are the only 2 players we have capable of weighted precise passes into space for a striker of Murrays pedestrianised agility to get to and score from. He should play at the head of a midfield trio, or as a pair of advanced midfielders with Gross, free to pass, shoot or feet a lone striker. Given the general crapulence of our wingers we should just play one, free to switch sides.

If true, no wonder we're in trouble.

Unless you're an exceptional player (Vicente, Pirlo, Le Tissier), having pace and mobility is vital to ACM's/no.10's. Unfortunately Propper has none. When opponents counter attack us, we get overloaded.
 






Weststander

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I don't think he's that slow, trouble is more that he's tactically stifled and playing in a position he's not comfortable with, both he and Gross are the only 2 players we have capable of weighted precise passes into space for a striker of Murrays pedestrianised agility to get to and score from. He should play at the head of a midfield trio, or as a pair of advanced midfielders with Gross, free to pass, shoot or feet a lone striker. Given the general crapulence of our wingers we should just play one, free to switch sides.

On Saturday we saw fans favourite Andone, outdo 35 year old Muzza, for pedestrianised forward's play.
 



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