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Ninja Elephant

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Feb 16, 2009
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[MENTION=11816]Artie Fufkin[/MENTION] - game changer extraordinaire! :bowdown: Absolutely incredible. What's next for you now? Do you think you could get run even faster or are you going to target shorter distances to see how quickly you can complete them?

[MENTION=6625]Badger[/MENTION] - you raised the bar but it's been lifted in an insane way! :ohmy:
 


Simgull

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Jan 3, 2013
1,637
Hove
Tremendous [MENTION=11816]Artie Fufkin[/MENTION] - congratulations! To adapt a phrase from your namesake - you were kicking some ass there!!
 


Curious Orange

Punxsatawney Phil
Jul 5, 2003
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On NSC for over two decades...
Wow! [MENTION=11816]Artie Fufkin[/MENTION], just WOW! That is an absolutely tremendous effort!

(Yes, I'm jealous - we're in the same age category, and you've just put in a last 10k of a marathon at about my 10k race pace! )
 




Artie Fufkin

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Mar 30, 2008
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[MENTION=11816]Artie Fufkin[/MENTION] - game changer extraordinaire! :bowdown: Absolutely incredible. What's next for you now? Do you think you could get run even faster or are you going to target shorter distances to see how quickly you can complete them?

[MENTION=6625]Badger[/MENTION] - you raised the bar but it's been lifted in an insane way! :ohmy:

Thanks mate! I'd love to run an Autumn marathon but that's a busy time of the year work wise for me and the long training time commitment with a young family means it's hard for me to fully commit to 2 in the year. Another major like Berlin, Chicago or New York would be a dream though. I also hear great things about the Yorkshire Marathon. I think my time at Manchester means I'm eligible for a Championship place in London next year, so unless they change the eligibility time which is sub 2:45 for men, that will probably be my next one. I'd like to think I could go quicker. In the meantime, I'm going to just enjoy my running and try to stay injury free. I'm running the Hackney Half in a couple of weeks but I don't think I'll have a goal for that one.

Go get it on Sunday! :thumbsup:
 














Badger

NOT the Honey Badger
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May 8, 2007
12,749
Toronto
Hi guys, the morning after the Manchester marathon and I'm still in a bit of shock. 2:44:37! The race went like a dream. I had the usual pre-race nerves in the morning and just about managed to eat some toast and have some coffee. I stayed overnight at the Premier Inn Old Trafford close by the marathon village, start & finish which helped with logistics.

A short race report:
The race started at 9am. I had the short walk from the hotel to the village to get ready and drop my bag off. After a warm up and some light drills I got in the starting pen. I was in the first wave behind the elites which was busy but not too congested. Once we set off I tried to stay calm and relaxed and kept telling myself to hold the pace. I felt great for the first 18 or so miles and was really enjoying myself, holding a comfortable pace around 6:25 min mile'ing. I started to feel confident I was in 2:50 range. I got talking to a guy next to me at mile 19 who was saying we were around 2:48 pace. As I was still feeling good that's when I thought perhaps I could kick on and see if I could get close to 2:45. I decided to go for it in the last 10km and increased the pace to just above 6 min mile'ing. It seemed to feel relatively ok! I was passing quite a few guys at this point but I was struggling to figure out the maths to know if getting inside 2:45 was on or not . I had to dig deep from mile 24 and realised it was going to be REALLY close either way! The last mile is one long straight so you can see the finish banner and clock in the distance from a long way out. It never seemed to get any closer! When I crossed the line I couldn't quite believe the time on my watch. I had done it!

2:44:37. Placed 126th (Overall) / 24th (Male 40+'s). A 22 minute negative split sub 2:45 PB in marathon #4. Oh boy!

When I set out on this marathon specific training cycle back on December 3rd, I was more determined than ever to achieve a sub 3. I went deep into the well for this one to take me to a new level. 18 weeks of hard graft, consistency, I think close to 1000 miles banked (I'd say 80% EASY paced), multiple 18, 20, 22, 23 mile long runs, focussed on recovery, stretching and some conditioning just as much as my running, very fortunate to not pick up an injury and stayed healthy. It all paid off in the end. Beyond happy! :)

If you're thinking of a Spring marathon I'd 100% recommend Manchester. It's billing as a flat and fast marathon is definitely legit. I think there were around 14,000 running so a nice size with not too much traffic. It's brilliantly organised, a great course with very little elevation, smooth turns and nice long straight sections and really well spectated (I'd say on a par with Brighton). The dry and sunny weather helped.

Good luck to everyone running Brighton on Sunday!! You've got this! :thumbsup:

I've been looking forward to your race report. Absolutely epic achievement, and that's quite a negative split. I don't think I've done a negative split in any race, ever (although that's probably down to how I approach races). I bet it still hasn't sunk in yet.

To put it into perspective, I did an 8k race on Saturday with exactly the same average pace as your marathon! It was a really hilly course, so much so that there was a prize for the fastest time up the final hill. I cannot imagine keeping that pace up for an entire marathon though.
 


knocky1

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Jan 20, 2010
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Nothing to add and no time for doing the table yet but i’m not letting that sub 2:45 marathon go to page 2 on NSC.
 




Guinness Boy

Tofu eating wokerati
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Jul 23, 2003
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Up and Coming Sunny Portslade
How soon before the big day must you stop using NSAIDs? Does anyone know how long they stay in your body?

I was a twit at work yesterday and stumbled up some concrete steps on my way back from getting my race energy gels at Decathlon (they'll be pissing themselves up at the irony club). I've skinned an elbow but also have a small but deep bruise on my thigh. Normally would sort it in a couple of days with ice and ibuprofen gel. The ice I've used but I'm tossing up between the Ibuprofen (which I know mustn't be in your system on race day) and the Arnica Cream my Mrs uses that I've never been convinced about (seemed to have no effect last time I tried it and reviews suggest it's just a placebo).
 


knocky1

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Jan 20, 2010
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How soon before the big day must you stop using NSAIDs? Does anyone know how long they stay in your body?

I was a twit at work yesterday and stumbled up some concrete steps on my way back from getting my race energy gels at Decathlon (they'll be pissing themselves up at the irony club). I've skinned an elbow but also have a small but deep bruise on my thigh. Normally would sort it in a couple of days with ice and ibuprofen gel. The ice I've used but I'm tossing up between the Ibuprofen (which I know mustn't be in your system on race day) and the Arnica Cream my Mrs uses that I've never been convinced about (seemed to have no effect last time I tried it and reviews suggest it's just a placebo).

You'll be fine taking ibuprofen for a few days. Just make sure you flush them through by the end of the week with plenty of red wine and beer. Best bet is ice on the thigh every few hours today.

My lingering hayfever has merged into a head cold. My back is still fragile. I've run 3 times in 23 days. Thank f*** I haven't got maranoia, as well!
 


dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
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Burgess Hill
How soon before the big day must you stop using NSAIDs? Does anyone know how long they stay in your body?

I was a twit at work yesterday and stumbled up some concrete steps on my way back from getting my race energy gels at Decathlon (they'll be pissing themselves up at the irony club). I've skinned an elbow but also have a small but deep bruise on my thigh. Normally would sort it in a couple of days with ice and ibuprofen gel. The ice I've used but I'm tossing up between the Ibuprofen (which I know mustn't be in your system on race day) and the Arnica Cream my Mrs uses that I've never been convinced about (seemed to have no effect last time I tried it and reviews suggest it's just a placebo).

Best not to take any in the 24 hours before the race.....otherwise should be ok.

Also, maybe wrap yourself up in a 20-tog duvet and sit on the sofa until Sunday morning [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
 




Guinness Boy

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Jul 23, 2003
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You'll be fine taking ibuprofen for a few days. Just make sure you flush them through by the end of the week with plenty of red wine and beer. Best bet is ice on the thigh every few hours today.

My lingering hayfever has merged into a head cold. My back is still fragile. I've run 3 times in 23 days. Thank f*** I haven't got maranoia, as well!

I don't think Sunday evening counts as the end of the week. I'm planning a very large flushing then!

Thanks for the advice and I'm sure "Team NSC Paranoid Old Crock" will be on the start line just fine and dandy.
 




knocky1

Well-known member
Jan 20, 2010
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Just spotted that [MENTION=11816]Artie Fufkin[/MENTION] could have a slower 10K PB than his last 10K on Sunday. Great work at Ma*ch*****, nope can't type that word.

[MENTION=67]Curious Orange[/MENTION] setting me an achievable 5K target that won't be there for me long and [MENTION=23419]penny's harmonica[/MENTION] putting in a good pre marathon 5k SB.

NAME 5K SB 5K PB SB AG 10K 10M HM M
Artie Fufkin 16:55 16:55 81.3% 38:42 1:17:00 2:44:37
Badger18:05 18:05 72.88% 39:06 1:22:572:56:33
Big Nuts 18:30 18:30 73.24% 38:39 1:05:38 1:27:42 3:15:59
Ninja Elephant 19:28 18:23 66.67% 39:00 1:07:57 1:27:43 3:29:12
St Leonard's 19.46 19.44% 1:34:35
P's Harmonica 20:31 20:10 72.46% 43:03 1:33:56 3:27:19
Dazzer 20:35 19.57 72.79% 1:36 3:43:
Curious Orange 20:38 18:36 67.69% 37:59 1:24:23.9 3:29:23
Bad Ash20:4519:40 64.82%43:27 1:35:003:43:03
jimmygull20:5020:5049:19
Knocky 20:59 17:45 75.77% 39:52 1:34:00 3:50:49
Ben Eltons Bro21:1521:1564.24%45:38 1:39:26 3:52:07
CompleteBadger 21:31 19:3760.26% 41:25 1:17:11 1:30:58 3:29:52
GNT 21:34 20:20 77.09% 40:31 1:19:12 1:31:18 4:19:55
Simgull 21:42 20:21 69.05%42:45 1:11:46 1:38:14 3:44:28
Soistes 21:51 21:51 75.36% 46:14 1:43:12 3:51:33
lostinlondon 22:00 22:00 61:14% 44.13
Anchorman 22:31 21:34 70.61% 46.25 1:41:38 3:55:00
Guinness Boy 23:02 22:04 46:50 01:21:06 1:49:06 4:00:06
Greg Bobkin 23:12 20:54 42: 1:13: 1:39:00 3:57:37
Mr Blobby23:43 23:43 62.19% 48:54 1:20:05 1:47:44 4:27:50
Bob! 23:57 22:41 66.95% 45.391:16:42 1:44:21 3:53:35
HerrTubthumper24:0919:03 1:36:10 3:05:34
Notters 25:44 25:44 51.23%
Capricorn 16:57 36:55 1:23:20 3:21:11
Deletebeepbeep 18:05 1:23:48 3:01:55
Blue&WhiteSea 17:05 36:53 1:00:09 1:22:39
Mr Banana 19:28
SeafordbySea 20:02 46:10 1:29:21 1:37:48
Left Back 21:02 45:47 1:42:01
RInce'sPython22:2948:45 1:55:48
Pembury 18.58 39.08 1:33:02 3:19:
JoePrecious 19:44 46:19 1:24:08 1:38:13 4:04:30
m20gull 26:15 57:32 02:07:07 5:46:02
Nathan46:58 1:47:20 4:15:15
Jonny Rainbow41:43 1:12:40 3:24:38
Shippers 1:43:42
sjamesb346654:11 2:02:06
 


Artie Fufkin

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Mar 30, 2008
683
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I've been looking forward to your race report. Absolutely epic achievement, and that's quite a negative split. I don't think I've done a negative split in any race, ever (although that's probably down to how I approach races). I bet it still hasn't sunk in yet.

To put it into perspective, I did an 8k race on Saturday with exactly the same average pace as your marathon! It was a really hilly course, so much so that there was a prize for the fastest time up the final hill. I cannot imagine keeping that pace up for an entire marathon though.

Many thanks [MENTION=6625]Badger[/MENTION] ! Yep still in shock. I never dreamed it would go as well as it did. I don't think I could have paced it any better (which was my biggest concern.) This probably sounds weird but there were times in the second half when I was hitting low 6 min mile'ing that I felt I was no longer in control of my legs as they were motoring all by themselves?! I couldn't believe I ended up averaging 6:15 min/mile pace. Legs are in bits now though! :)
 




Artie Fufkin

like to run
Mar 30, 2008
683
out running
Just spotted that [MENTION=11816]Artie Fufkin[/MENTION] could have a slower 10K PB than his last 10K on Sunday. Great work at Ma*ch*****, nope can't type that word.

[MENTION=67]Curious Orange[/MENTION] setting me an achievable 5K target that won't be there for me long and [MENTION=23419]penny's harmonica[/MENTION] putting in a good pre marathon 5k SB.

NAME 5K SB 5K PB SB AG 10K 10M HM M
Artie Fufkin 16:55 16:55 81.3% 38:42 1:17:00 2:44:37
Badger18:05 18:05 72.88% 39:06 1:22:572:56:33
Big Nuts 18:30 18:30 73.24% 38:39 1:05:38 1:27:42 3:15:59
Ninja Elephant 19:28 18:23 66.67% 39:00 1:07:57 1:27:43 3:29:12
St Leonard's 19.46 19.44% 1:34:35
P's Harmonica 20:31 20:10 72.46% 43:03 1:33:56 3:27:19
Dazzer 20:35 19.57 72.79% 1:36 3:43:
Curious Orange 20:38 18:36 67.69% 37:59 1:24:23.9 3:29:23
Bad Ash20:4519:40 64.82%43:27 1:35:003:43:03
jimmygull20:5020:5049:19
Knocky 20:59 17:45 75.77% 39:52 1:34:00 3:50:49
Ben Eltons Bro21:1521:1564.24%45:38 1:39:26 3:52:07
CompleteBadger 21:31 19:3760.26% 41:25 1:17:11 1:30:58 3:29:52
GNT 21:34 20:20 77.09% 40:31 1:19:12 1:31:18 4:19:55
Simgull 21:42 20:21 69.05%42:45 1:11:46 1:38:14 3:44:28
Soistes 21:51 21:51 75.36% 46:14 1:43:12 3:51:33
lostinlondon 22:00 22:00 61:14% 44.13
Anchorman 22:31 21:34 70.61% 46.25 1:41:38 3:55:00
Guinness Boy 23:02 22:04 46:50 01:21:06 1:49:06 4:00:06
Greg Bobkin 23:12 20:54 42: 1:13: 1:39:00 3:57:37
Mr Blobby23:43 23:43 62.19% 48:54 1:20:05 1:47:44 4:27:50
Bob! 23:57 22:41 66.95% 45.391:16:42 1:44:21 3:53:35
HerrTubthumper24:0919:03 1:36:10 3:05:34
Notters 25:44 25:44 51.23%
Capricorn 16:57 36:55 1:23:20 3:21:11
Deletebeepbeep 18:05 1:23:48 3:01:55
Blue&WhiteSea 17:05 36:53 1:00:09 1:22:39
Mr Banana 19:28
SeafordbySea 20:02 46:10 1:29:21 1:37:48
Left Back 21:02 45:47 1:42:01
RInce'sPython22:2948:45 1:55:48
Pembury 18.58 39.08 1:33:02 3:19:
JoePrecious 19:44 46:19 1:24:08 1:38:13 4:04:30
m20gull 26:15 57:32 02:07:07 5:46:02
Nathan46:58 1:47:20 4:15:15
Jonny Rainbow41:43 1:12:40 3:24:38
Shippers 1:43:42
sjamesb346654:11 2:02:06

Many thanks [MENTION=15605]knocky1[/MENTION] !! 10k is definitely my least favourite distance so I don't race many. I think pacing a quick 10k is a real skill.
 


jimmygull

Active member
Mar 22, 2012
161
Whoop whoop! Just been to see the best physio this morning. So thorough and really knew her stuff. She picked up via resistance tests that my Psoas muscle was not functioning properly and that this was causing my right leg to over compensate and put pressure on the knee. She did lots of prodding to fix that. Did the resistance test again and the difference was incredible. She thinks that with the right prep this week (hip flexes, foam rolling the quad etc) that I could be ok for Brighton AND London! Going back for additional ultrasound on Friday and pre-race strapping. So I am back in the game! Chuffed, as was fearing the worse and on a bit of a downer about the whole thing, at least now I have a shot at it!

BIG congrats to Artie, unbelievable performance!!! And sounds like all Brighton marathoners are in decent shape, look forward to joining you on Sunday!
 



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