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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


  • Total voters
    1,081


Stat Brother

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
73,740
West west west Sussex
We should **** with their minds by sending them on a post-Brexit trade meeting to Australia. I’d love to be a fly on the wall when they realise they’ve not fallen off the edge of the earth.

Although sending them to discuss trade with like minded individuals may result in us being asked to live off a diet of racism and misogyny.
 




Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
50,202
Goldstone
Honda has now admitted it was already deep into the process of converting its UK manufacturing facility to make electric vehicles when it pulled the plug and decided to leave instead. In other words, it really *was* about Brexit after all.

Or, they had invested in converting their UK facility, when Japan then did a deal with the EU, allowing them to build in Japan instead.

If it really was about Brexit, why not wait just a few weeks until we know what's happening on the 29th March?
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Or, they had invested in converting their UK facility, when Japan then did a deal with the EU, allowing them to build in Japan instead.

If it really was about Brexit, why not wait just a few weeks until we know what's happening on the 29th March?

Do you really think we will know what is happening on the 29th March?
 






Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
50,202
Goldstone
Do you really think we will know what is happening on the 29th March?
We'll know a lot more than we know now. Either an extension purely to carry on kicking a bag of shit around (which seems like a pointless idea to me), No Deal Brexit (which seems unlikely), A Deal (which seems unlikely), or something different, like talk of another referendum, or complete change to May's deal.

The point is it's just a few weeks away, which is nothing in terms of Honda's long term policies, and there's still a good chance that whatever Brexit turns out to be, won't affect companies manufacturing here.
 


Stat Brother

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
73,740
West west west Sussex
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Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
This should be the end of it. Pull article 50 and apologise to the electorate.
It wouldn't be the end of it, sadly.

An angry Farage and the yellow vest 'undemocratic loons' would continue to poison our society. Backed up by enough targetted dis-information, who knows where that future leads ?
 




nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,608
Gods country fortnightly
So the AT tells parliament nothing has changed, but parliament should vote for May's deal anyway

Basically ignore the law, just vote with your heart
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,608
Gods country fortnightly
It wouldn't be the end of it, sadly.

An angry Farage and the yellow vest 'undemocratic loons' would continue to poison our society. Backed up by enough targetted dis-information, who knows where that future leads ?

Need to fight evil with good, and fight misinformation with truth and facts. We can't give in to Brexit elites leaching off the country...
 






Stat Brother

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
73,740
West west west Sussex
Where's Boris?
 


Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
Need to fight evil with good, and fight misinformation with truth and facts. We can't give in to Brexit elites leaching off the country...
Yes, and no.

Fighting misinformation with truth and facts generally fails. The misinformed are simply not interested. It is how most of our brains work.

The only way is to cut off the delivery mechanisms of the misinformation, and to prosecute robustly the agents of influence.
 






Hotchilidog

Well-known member
Jan 24, 2009
8,710
An utter shambles, a costly waste of two years in which the governance of this country has gone down the toilet. May is not fit to govern, she has mishandled the the single most important constitutional issue of the last 50 years all because she kept her focus inward on her party and not on the country. A government tht has LITERALLY been held in contempt by parliament, a refusal to answer questions in a straight forward manner, constantly trying to keep parliament out of the process, the list goes on.

Meanwhile on planet everyday life, the NHS, Schools, Local Councils, Social Services and the Police find their resources slashed. Vulnerable people find themselves struggling day to day at the hands of an unrelentingly vicious benefits system. Seriously just get these useless people out.
 




nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,608
Gods country fortnightly
Yes, and no.

Fighting misinformation with truth and facts generally fails. The misinformed are simply not interested. It is how most of our brains work.

The only way is to cut off the delivery mechanisms of the misinformation, and to prosecute robustly the agents of influence.

There are some that just will never listen, but others will see the light and realise complex issues can't be solved with populism.

As for cutting off delivery mechanisms the law hasn't caught up with reality, problem is parliament is paralysed with Brexit.
 


Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
10,957
Crawley
It is now apparent that the DUP are running brexit decision making. Whichever side of the argument you are on it is a disgrace that a party with 19th century attitudes to religion and social affairs and who in no way represent the NI electorate which voted remain is put in such a commanding position.

Yes, for people that voted to leave because the EU is not democratic enough, it must be quite a shock.
 




Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
There are some that just will never listen, but others will see the light and realise complex issues can't be solved with populism.

As for cutting off delivery mechanisms the law hasn't caught up with reality, problem is parliament is paralysed with Brexit.
Indeed.

Good point about the law lagging behind technology.
 


Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
It is now apparent that the DUP are running brexit decision making. Whichever side of the argument you are on it is a disgrace that a party with 19th century attitudes to religion and social affairs and who in no way represent the NI electorate which voted remain is put in such a commanding position.
If only May had built as big a consensus in Parliament as possible before issuing her red line dictats.

The DUP would now be nobodies. And we'd have a deal done.

*sigh*
 


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