[Football] City facing ban

maltaseagull · May 14, 2019

Manchester City are facing a ban from European competition for allegedly breaking UEFA’s financial fair play rules.

UEFA have been investigating hacked emails, which appear to show City inflated sponsorship income. City deny any wrongdoing and say accusations of financial irregularities are entirely false.

They have welcomed UEFA’s investigation and declared it “an opportunity to bring an end to the speculation resulting from the illegal hacking and out of context publication of emails”.

If they are found guilty of breaking FFP rules, UEFA’s adjudicatory chamber has the power to ban City from the Champions League. City would have the right to appeal to UEFA and the Court of Arbitration for Sport.

What a shame

Perfidious Albion · May 14, 2019

I would give a cheer

Not because I hate City, but I believe it would give a warning to other wealthy clubs, perhaps reduce the big transfers and make the league more open.

Thunder Bolt · May 14, 2019

UEFA might fine City, who might appeal and then pay a lot less in fines.

Deleted member 22389 · May 14, 2019

Bet it doesn't happen. Too much money involved.

darkwolf666 · May 14, 2019

Perfidious Albion said:
I would give a cheer
Not because I hate City, but I believe it would give a warning to other wealthy clubs, perhaps reduce the big transfers and make the league more open.

I really want to say, well said, but all I can think is...

:lol:

Ninja Elephant · May 14, 2019

People keep talking about this as if it's somehow good news, but it isn't. They're threatening to dominate domestically as it is, take away the distraction of the Champions League and they can dedicate even more focus to domestic football.

BBassic · May 14, 2019

There is no chance of this happening.

Less than zero.

Think of the most unlikely thing that could ever happen and it will be vastly more likely to happen than City being banned.

Cozzy · May 14, 2019

If guilty they should face the sternest of penalties BUT lets face it all the governing bodies bottle it when big money clubs rattle their cage because it will hurt the prestige of their competitions. Champions League without the English Champions would be hurt in the pocket UEFA would never settle for that.

zefarelly · May 14, 2019

More evil Suadi money will get thrown at it until whomever backs down.

Green Cross Code Man · May 14, 2019

BBassic said:
There is no chance of this happening.

Less than zero.

Think of the most unlikely thing that could ever happen and it will be vastly more likely to happen than City being banned.

Cross party agreement on brexit?

nicko31 · May 14, 2019

Ninja Elephant said:
People keep talking about this as if it's somehow good news, but it isn't. They're threatening to dominate domestically as it is, take away the distraction of the Champions League and they can dedicate even more focus to domestic football.

They are about to win the domestic treble, I'd say domestically they've hit the ceiling

BBassic · May 14, 2019

Green Cross Code Man said:
Cross party agreement on brexit?

Yep. More likely than City being banned.

Questions · May 14, 2019

zefarelly said:
More evil Suadi money will get thrown at it until whomever backs down.

Suadi money. I don’t trust Suadi’s.

Triggaaar · May 14, 2019

I would favour a ban for all clubs breaking the rules, but this

maltaseagull said:
UEFA have been investigating hacked emails, which appear to show City inflated sponsorship income.

is completely the wrong way to go about it. Plenty of clubs are cheating with 'sponsorship deals', what are the chances of catching them all? Zero. What are the chances of catching half of them? Marginally above zero.

The solution is simple:
Sponsorship deals should be open for bids, UEFA should see all offers and make a judgement on what the maximum value of the deal is, for FFP purposes.

So if the offers are from companies with dubious links to the owners of the club, they don't count. Offers from companies like Samsung, would count, and the value of their sponsorship (for example) could be used for a club like City, should City not provide evidence that it's worth more.

The notion that a club can simply say 'well, my brother's company, which doesn't make a profit, has offered us £400m' is pure madness.

Triggaaar · May 14, 2019

zefarelly said:
More evil Suadi money will get thrown at it until whomever backs down.

UAE?

highflyer · May 14, 2019

Triggaaar said:
I would favour a ban for all clubs breaking the rules, but thisis completely the wrong way to go about it. Plenty of clubs are cheating with 'sponsorship deals', what are the chances of catching them all? Zero. What are the chances of catching half of them? Marginally above zero.

The solution is simple:
Sponsorship deals should be open for bids, UEFA should see all offers and make a judgement on what the maximum value of the deal is, for FFP purposes.

So if the offers are from companies with dubious links to the owners of the club, they don't count. Offers from companies like Samsung, would count, and the value of their sponsorship (for example) could be used for a club like City, should City not provide evidence that it's worth more.

The notion that a club can simply say 'well, my brother's company, which doesn't make a profit, has offered us £400m' is pure madness.

More to it than a bit of manipulation of sponsorship deals I think?

https://www.spiegel.de/internationa...ng-shadow-firms-to-flout-rules-a-1255796.html

Of course they are not alone but the bigger the money, the dirtier it gets, and at some point a stand needs to be taken - especially when so much of it has now been leaked and is public knowledge. If the only charge they think will stick is the sponsorship one then perhaps this is a bit like taking down Al Capone on tax evasion charges?

Far far more likely though, as stated repeatedly and correctly already, nothing (meaningful) will happen because money talks and our sport is corrupt to the core.

Triggaaar · May 14, 2019

highflyer said:
Far far more likely though, as stated repeatedly and correctly already, nothing (meaningful) will happen because money talks and our sport is corrupt to the core.

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banjo · May 14, 2019

The Premier League is getting more like Formula 1 every season. Boring.

Pavilionaire · May 14, 2019

The thing is if these financial irregularities ARE proven then they've effectively cheated their way to the top.

As a keen follower of Major League Baseball I am minded of the days of Barry Bonds and Mark McGwire c. 1998-2001 who smashed the home run records and were much lauded at the time before being exposed as drug cheats. Baseball is a sport of stats and the home run record is something sacred, held by Babe Ruth for 34 years, then Roger Maris for another 37 and yet in a 3 year period they quickly fell to 7th and 8th on the all-time list because of performance enhancing drugs - cheating. That period is now a permanent stain in baseball.

The City team is excellent and yet what if they have cheated and Liverpool have played by the rules? Indeed, take City out of the equation and Liverpool have just had the best Prem season of all-time, but have nothing to show for it. That City squad cost £702million to assemble, ours cost about £115million - unbelievable, and they inflate the prices which makes it harder for everyone else to compete.

In the week City win another title half an hour down the road historic Bolton Wanderers go into administration. Football does need to get tougher on this sort of stuff.

mwrpoole · May 14, 2019

BBassic said:
Yep. More likely than City being banned.

I wouldn't be so sure. I can imagine having 4 English teams in the EUFA finals is causing them huge headaches and they are meeting every day to work out a way to make sure it doesn't happen again.

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