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[Albion] If We Survive
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DumLum
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I will see it as a warning that if we don't change we will probably finish bottom next season.
My concern would be that we started the season well, playing disciplined but somewhat negative football - then we tried to be more attacking, which didn't work - and resorting to putting 10 men behind the ball has saved us, meaning that would then be the way forward.
I'd like the way forward to be more attacking football. Of course that may take a little time, but I'd still like that to be the aim.
Almiron is very unlikely to play against us next week https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/spo...rafa-benitez-expects-miguel-almirons-16159443
My thoughts are the same. Rondon and Perez have been very good in plenty of matches, since the pacey/creative Almiron was brought into ACM. Maddison was pulling the strings for LCFC yesterday, again.
ACM is where our main issues lie.
Dunk
Bong
March
Duffy
Are better players, playing at a higher level, than before they met CH.
It's the PL signings that have not improved and we can only speculate on reasons for that.
maltaseagull
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I would add Stephens to that list too.
Nixonator
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We will not change the way we play under CH, that doesn't mean that we can't be good at it.
Invite pressure, when we get the ball quick touches and pace on the break. It has worked and can work in this division.
IF we stay up and IF we stick with Hughton we mainly need someone to challenge Gross. No idea whether the kid from South America can do it.
Secondly we need a less flashy, more Kayal like midfielder, one who offers us significant improvement but with the same workrate. I would offload Propper and keep Kayal as competition.
Third, competition for Dale Stephens. He is the ONLY player we have in the entire squad who can occupy that role so it's no wonder he can get complacent.
Finally, we need a new Murray. Someone who can keep the ball and/or draw fouls with anything that comes near him. He doens't need to be a clinical finisher, just someone who is a real pain to get the ball off and can link play.
Everything else we can get away with except right back perhaps, depending on Bruno.
Based on the above, we need players who are either already tested at this kind of level, or at least those for whom we are extremely confident can make the step. Serious investment needed.
My fear is, even if TB will back the kind of sums required, how will we tempt players to a side that scraped survival and plays negative football?
Invite pressure, when we get the ball quick touches and pace on the break. It has worked and can work in this division.
IF we stay up and IF we stick with Hughton we mainly need someone to challenge Gross. No idea whether the kid from South America can do it.
Secondly we need a less flashy, more Kayal like midfielder, one who offers us significant improvement but with the same workrate. I would offload Propper and keep Kayal as competition.
Third, competition for Dale Stephens. He is the ONLY player we have in the entire squad who can occupy that role so it's no wonder he can get complacent.
Finally, we need a new Murray. Someone who can keep the ball and/or draw fouls with anything that comes near him. He doens't need to be a clinical finisher, just someone who is a real pain to get the ball off and can link play.
Everything else we can get away with except right back perhaps, depending on Bruno.
Based on the above, we need players who are either already tested at this kind of level, or at least those for whom we are extremely confident can make the step. Serious investment needed.
My fear is, even if TB will back the kind of sums required, how will we tempt players to a side that scraped survival and plays negative football?
el punal
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I would argue the case for Bernardo, Bissouma and Maty Ryan. Locardia, Andone and Jahanbakhsh have the potential to be much better players and in some respects I wish they had played more games to have fulfilled that potential. Still not sure about Davy Propper, Montoya and Balogun.
Justice
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Murray is useless now and has been for weeks only CH knows why he keeps playing week in week out.
Having to play 38 away games in one season was never going to be easy.
METALMICKY
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This big time. We need someone like Shelvey but without the niggle attitude and arrogance. Propper and Stephens are never going to be creative enough
sussex_guy2k2
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In what way do you think any of them have improved? Which aspects of their game? March is maybe better defensively (at the expense of his attacking output arguably), Bong is still what he's always been which is a capable defender who is severely limited on the ball, Duffy is the same, and Dunk, unfortunately, still have errors of concentration in him that have held him back throughout his career. Furthermore, 3 of those are defensive players playing in a system that highlights what they do well and limits their weaknesses; that isn't the same as improving them as players.
sussex_guy2k2
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You think they've all improved under the current management? Bissouma is still so incredibly raw, despite his game time. Bernardo is an excellent full back but I fail to see how he's improved; arguably he's just got more used to the system.
And Ryan, as much as I rate him, hasn't been as good this season as last. That isn't progress.
Remember that they all face far better opposition, than betore CH arrived.
sussex_guy2k2
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For sure. But how have they improved? I don't see an element of any of their games, aside from March's defensive work, that has improved.
clockend1983
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An interesting point about shooting
I watched the team during the kick in pre Cardiff
game and paid particular attention to the part where
the midfield players,wingers and strikers knock the ball
into the coach who knocks it left or right player takes a touch
then shoots.At the next home game go and have a look at the
absolute tosh that is supposed shooting
10% on target with maybe 2 finding the back of the net
I thought to myself why will it be any different when the refs whistle
goes to start the game
Funnily enough I looked at Cardiff who where doing the same
only about 80%of theirs where on target
I believe the game starts long before the first whistle and
I firmly believe this hasn’t helped us at all
I remember watching pre game away at stoke last seasons
and 5/6 of them where running a give and go
1-2 pattern with the ball being hammered home from
just inside the box or penalty spot.I thought to myself
that looks interesting they must have run it 20 times
The game starts and hey presto an fantastic
give and go passing move with JI finishing Cooky
Get the shots on target you will carry it into the game
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Sussex Nomad
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We have massive problems. They kind of got polished over after the first season. I don't blame our new signings, if the team is set out to defend for 90 minutes we don't really get to see what they can do well. Our negative tactics, if indeed we do have tactics, have to change. We cannot do this for 90 minutes over 38 games, we have been found out. No shots on target yesterday, no goals in six. We need somebody at the helm that is willing to take a chance, not go out from minute one and stick a bank of 9 behind the ball. We are not experts but we can still plainly see what is going wrong. Why can the expert not see this? It's painful.
Dunk - capped by England, justifiably so, other than his recent shitness, his game has come on loads since Hyppia.
Bong - still lapses, but a decent FB against quality opposition.
March - this season he’s improved a lot, after his nervous first PL season.
Duffy - from the quality CB for Blackburn in a poorer division, he’s established himself as a PL centre back against the best.
If you really think known of those players has improved one jot in the last 3 or 4 years, then CH should be sacked without delay.
Or are you exaggerating, because you can’t stand CH in the job?