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[Football] Raheem Sterling's solution to racism at football



Super Steve Earle

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Feb 23, 2009
8,313
North of Brighton
Hmmm. He would like to see 9 points deducted from clubs for racist chanting. Not something I've ever heard in 55 years of following the Albion, but I would be pretty annoyed if Brighton had 9 points deducted because some random idiot at the Amex started some M-word chants and threw a B-word skin on to the pitch. I'm all for racism being firmly stamped on wherever it is apparent, but racism isn't just a football problem and frankly I don't expect to be penalised along with the racist idiot. Punish the individual not the whole class. Not sure how Raheem would feel if a Man City fan took a pop at an opposition black player and City lost the Premier League as a result. Then where does it stop? Burnley fans sing 'We can see you holding hands'? Do you prioritise racism over homophobia? Back to the point though, football is not a weapon to to brandish against racism. Football is not even a part of the problem. Racism is what it is and will be around long after I'm gone. but you can't give racists the power to influence our national sport.
 








Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
31,323
Uffern
Hmmm. He would like to see 9 points deducted from clubs for racist chanting. Not something I've ever heard in 55 years of following the Albion, but I would be pretty annoyed if Brighton had 9 points deducted because some random idiot at the Amex started some M-word chants and threw a B-word skin on to the pitch.

You should have been at the last game at the Goldstone - that was pretty unsavoury. The only time that I've ever seen a banana luzzed at a black player. And there was plenty of sporadic racist chanting at away games in the 80s ... happily, it never caught on with the mass of our supporters.

I don't think Sterling was talking about the odd idiot, he's talking about the wholesale booing and chanting from 100s of fans. It happens all too often but, fortunately not at the Albion any more.
 




blue-shifted

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Feb 20, 2004
7,645
a galaxy far far away
The problem with this would be people going to rivals grounds and doing it.
 


BN41Albion

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Oct 1, 2017
6,356
I don't think Sterling was talking about the odd idiot, he's talking about the wholesale booing and chanting from 100s of fans. It happens all too often but, fortunately not at the Albion any more.

Does that happen often though!? I really don't think it happens at all! Perhaps in other countries, but here I can't remember hearing of a racist incident involving 100s of supporters in the last couple of decades!?
 






Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
59,198
The Fatherland
Hmmm. He would like to see 9 points deducted from clubs for racist chanting. Not something I've ever heard in 55 years of following the Albion, but I would be pretty annoyed if Brighton had 9 points deducted because some random idiot at the Amex started some M-word chants and threw a B-word skin on to the pitch. I'm all for racism being firmly stamped on wherever it is apparent, but racism isn't just a football problem and frankly I don't expect to be penalised along with the racist idiot. Punish the individual not the whole class. Not sure how Raheem would feel if a Man City fan took a pop at an opposition black player and City lost the Premier League as a result. Then where does it stop? Burnley fans sing 'We can see you holding hands'? Do you prioritise racism over homophobia? Back to the point though, football is not a weapon to to brandish against racism. Football is not even a part of the problem. Racism is what it is and will be around long after I'm gone. but you can't give racists the power to influence our national sport.

Fine. But in principle I have no issue with his idea.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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Fed up with hearing about Raheem Sterling. Self-promotion central. Great footballer though.


Ignore him then. I have warmed to him.
 






Acker79

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Nov 15, 2008
31,763
Brighton
Would you stop someone from racist chanting? Would you report them to the stewards?
Would you be more inclined if to not do so put us at risk of being deducted 9 points?

That's the point. So often people turn the other way when there's unsavoury chanting, it's not at them so they don't care, or they chalk it up to 'bantz'. There are plenty of people one here who frequently come out against fans reporting their own - those that view snitching as the lowest of the low.

Putting the punishment on everyone at the club incentivises everyone at the club to tackle it.

Yes, it's a societal problem, and football is part of society. If every facet of society shrugs their shoulders because the problem is bigger than them it is never dealt with. If football stands up, it flows through. With social media highlighting incidents, such as what happened with Chelsea, should lead to people to applying those standards outside football stadia - travelling to the games, watching in pubs etc.
 








BBassic

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Jul 28, 2011
12,220
Football is a weapon and Raheem is using it commendably.

He has a platform he can use to inform and educate hundreds of thousands of young kids, and adults for that matter, whatever their skin colour, that racism has no place in society and that those who practice it are witless f**ksticks.

Good on him.
 


SweatyMexican

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Mar 31, 2013
4,099
Punishing clubs for their supposed ‘supporters’ isn’t the right way to go about it.

There’s literally nothing they can do at the time, unless they tape everyone’s mouths shut as they come through the turnstiles.

We’ve come along way in the UK, but it still persists in small circles. Severely punish the individuals who are more interested in spouting racist/homophobic/etc abuse than watching the football, but don’t punish the clubs. They don’t condone it whatsoever.

My 2 cents. For what that’s worth.
 


Super Steve Earle

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Feb 23, 2009
8,313
North of Brighton
You should have been at the last game at the Goldstone - that was pretty unsavoury. The only time that I've ever seen a banana luzzed at a black player. And there was plenty of sporadic racist chanting at away games in the 80s ... happily, it never caught on with the mass of our supporters.

I don't think Sterling was talking about the odd idiot, he's talking about the wholesale booing and chanting from 100s of fans. It happens all too often but, fortunately not at the Albion any more.

I was at the last game at the Goldstone, don't remember the banana incident but impressed with your memory. Wish I could remember detail like that!
 






bhafcjack

New member
Nov 3, 2018
300
Brighton
The individual scum should be punished with a life banning order and fine and if happens more than once then club should be fined but never a point deduction as this is unfair on the 99.9% of good fans.
 





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