Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Theresa May's deal means out. It has been defeated three times by Brexit MPs.
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[Politics] Brexit
- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
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Theresa May's deal means out. It has been defeated three times by Brexit MPs.
Pretty pink fairy
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- Jan 30, 2008
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typical remainer jibe due to the fact they lost , still coming to terms with it after all this time BOO HOO , BOO HOO, IT WASN'T FAIR I LIVE IN LONDON/ BRIGHTON
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DR
Which is precisely the issue.
If we put a poll up on here asking everyone if they wanted us to beat Bournemouth 2-0 on Saturday you can bet pretty much everyone would vote "yes". But if we asked who should score the goals, how and when, you'd get hundreds of different answers. Some would want their favourite player or the one they've got in the fantasy team to score. Some would insist it would be better to score both goals early with others insisting it would be great to snatch a couple of last minute winners. There'd be those who'd like to see a great team goal, an overhead kick, a comedy own goal right in front of the away fans or a Sidwell-like effort from half way.
Therefore you'd go immedaitely from something that was voted for as an ideal but wasn't even guaranteed to something the majority wanted but that no one could agree on how to achieve.
That's 90 minutes of football where the original result in the poll would probably be around 98% - 2% given the odd Palace fan and mischief maker. Now swap that to 52% idealistic votes to 48% voting for the status quo, add in about the same amount of permutations and possibilities as the goal scorers, some massive vested interests and a whole set of laws to rewrite and you've got the current mess.
But you go on blaming "remain MPs" if you want - MPs who were voted in as part of a democratic election held AFTER the referendum.
Pretty pink fairy
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Telling him that he is more eloquent than two profs, Ppf, and our other assorted leavers on NSC is a compliment?
Not a very competitive field, I admit.... but he can spell and punctuate even if his arguments are weak!
I said that you had been conned. Because you posted a lot of stuff which was incorrect. Wherever you got it from, you were lied to and believed it enough to write it on a public forum. So you were conned.
Pretty pink fairy
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and FAILING TO RESPECT THEIR CONSTITUENTS REQUESTS...........because they're more important, **** the people who put them there in the first place
regards
DR
The election was a different vote to the referendum, covering more issues than just Brexit. The government lost a majorty that would have seen Brexit safely implemented and, instead, saw majorities increased for remain MPs like Peter Kyle and gains for the Customs Union supporting Labour Party.
YOU LOST A WORKING MAJORITY IN A DEMOCRATIC ELECTION. GET OVER IT.
Regards
GB.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
MPs are not delegates.
You know the Lewes constituency was 52% Remain but the MP is a member of the ERG (I don't know if she is one of the 28 quitter today) and has voted against May, for May and abstained. She does what she wants, when she wants.
Pretty pink fairy
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I have hardly put any facts and figures on here just my opinion and contesting the Remainers dominating this thread ,who seem to be mainly Labour supporters .
Pretty pink fairy
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Correction, the 2017 Labour Manifesto stated very clearly that Freedom of movement will end when we leave the EU (under a Labour government).
We know that the EU will not allow a Customs Union, without freedom of movement.
So if Labour’s policy in 2017 had been for a Customs Union, the EU would’ve point blank turned it down due to no freedom of movement.
Baldseagull
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No, it's harder. With Canada the deal starts off with their known areas of difference and they reduce over time, we on the other hand are saying we are going to differ in ways we have not yet decided, how do plan for divergence that has no time frame or limit in it's extent?
I honestly can't be bothered to trawl back through the mega thread. You carry on.
I don't support Labour, in their current form anyway.
Indeed. And no party ever carries through on everything in their manifesto anyway. It NEVER happens. But suddenly that's a thing to a large number of people because....er... Brexit.
It's straw clutching of the lowest order.
"Politicians are liars!" Yes, we all knew that already, have you just realised?
It's embarrassing that the general naivety of the British public has been exposed so blatantly to the rest of the World. More embarrassing than the cluster**** in parliament, and that's saying something.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
AND the rest are Caroline lucas arse lickers
regards
DR
I am neither Labour nor Green. Trying to stick labels on Remainers is fruitless.
JC Footy Genius
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Yes I know plenty of silly claims on all sides, see half a million more unemployed, Calais camps moved to Kent, an immediate recession that [MENTION=23343]Baldseagull[/MENTION] kept repeating even when the facts showed otherwise, WW3 etc. But your examples don't support Limpzero's claim that the leave campaign said we could have all the benefits of EU membership without any of the obligations.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Desperation Ppf when you have to quote Farage.