[Football] Chris Houghton still unemployed

wellquickwoody · Jun 18, 2019

drew said:
Are you sure? I suspect that, having been sacked, his contract was either paid up, a financial agreement reached or the club just stopped paying and it's up to him to take them to court. If you're sacked, you stop getting a salary.

I hope I am right but here goes......

If our club has just stopped paying him, and he needed to take us to court, we will have lost our soul. We are the decent club, not pushovers but fair, fight our corner when needed but don’t succumb to the levels of others. TB is a businessman and will protect his interests, but I don’t see him welching on a couple of mill. Like me and two hundred quid.

Pavilionaire · Jun 18, 2019

Hughton is one of those managers who delivers what it says on the tin. Overlook someone with Championship pedigree at your peril.

Jonathan Woodgate to Boro - good luck with that.

Thunder Bolt · Jun 18, 2019

Icy Gull said:
My first thought on this was exactly as you say. CH does not trust inexperienced young players and will only be successful (imo) in taking a team out of the Championship if he has experienced players to form the backbone. The talk of needing to see players at least 30 times in training before he trusted them sounds possible (no idea if this was fact or supposition btw).

Derby seem determined to go for the young player approach, this does not sound like a job made in heaven for either Derby or CH

Depending on his current relationship with TB it’ll be interesting to see if he wants to take some players from the Albion to his new club, assuming he still wants to be involved in day to day football pressures. I cannot imagine that he NEEDS a job

You say that, but under Hughton's watch, Solly March played for the first team, ruptured his cruciate at Derby, recovered, played for the England U21s and won Young Player of the year award.

Springal · Jun 18, 2019

Managers rarely get their contracts fully paid out. Likely a settlement offer is put in front of them to take it or leave it.

Source - I was on a recent England trip with someone who's wife works with the LMA.

GT49er · Jun 18, 2019

Thunder Bolt said:
You say that, but under Hughton's watch, Solly March played for the first team, ruptured his cruciate at Derby, recovered, played for the England U21s and won Young Player of the year award.

Solly had had more than 30 first team appearances before Hughton arrived, so CH didn't exactly pluck him untried from the youth team; he was already a first-teamer..

Icy Gull · Jun 18, 2019

Thunder Bolt said:
You say that, but under Hughton's watch, Solly March played for the first team, ruptured his cruciate at Derby, recovered, played for the England U21s and won Young Player of the year award.

I don’t remember specifics but I recall him not getting much game time and being dropped to the bench quite regularly when we were in the Championship in season 2 of CH.. I wouldn’t have called him a shoo in for a long time. Is my memory playing tricks on me?

Was it in season 2 he got injured?

Care to elaborate on other players he promoted from the youth set up?

My recollection of CH’s teams are ones with plenty of experience for the most part.

Uh_huh_him · Jun 18, 2019

OzMike said:
The football being served up in the latter stages of his tenure would hardly endear him to fans of other clubs would it.
Never want to witness that again.

That may well be true, but most other fans thought we were mad to get rid of him at the time.
So I doubt that is the reason he hasn't got a job yet.

The issue is more likely to be that he wants to manage in the Premier League and there aren't any vacancies yet.
When the shit starts hitting the fan in January, there may well be some clubs interested in a Manager with a track record of keeping clubs in the Division.
Pretty football or not.

Blue Valkyrie · Jun 18, 2019

Uh_huh_him said:
That may well be true, but most other fans thought we were mad to get rid of him at the time.
So I doubt that is the reason he hasn't got a job yet.

The issue is more likely to be that he wants to manage in the Premier League and there aren't any vacancies yet.
When the shit starts hitting the fan in January, there may well be some clubs interested in a Manager with a track record of keeping clubs in the Division.
Pretty football or not.

Yes, because the real reason *little old Brighton* were playing *above their station* could only be Chris Hughton. Pat on the head - no right to complain about tactics.

However, when it comes to their own sleeping world-beating super club, perhaps a different story ?

Thunder Bolt · Jun 18, 2019

Icy Gull said:
I don’t remember specifics but I recall him not getting much game time and being dropped to the bench quite regularly when we were in the Championship in season 2 of CH.. I wouldn’t have called him a shoo in for a long time. Is my memory playing tricks on me?

Was it in season 2 he got injured?

Care to elaborate on other players he promoted from the youth set up?

My recollection of CH’s teams are ones with plenty of experience for the most part.

Yes, it was in season 2, he ruptured his cruciate and was out for months.

Paris · Jun 18, 2019

Pavilionaire said:
Hughton is one of those managers who delivers what it says on the tin. Overlook someone with Championship pedigree at your peril.

Jonathan Woodgate to Boro - good luck with that.

Indeed, Woodgate at Boro is a disaster waiting to happen. Heard him on the radio the other day saying he was going to bring about an attacking brand of football. Also adding he won't tolerate players being late for training. I had to switch off the wireless in the end as I was so petrified.

Gibson has gone down the cheapskate route. Has got 'Next stop League One' written all over it.

RandyWanger · Jun 18, 2019

Rafa might be off. Would Newcastle want him back, would he go back?

Spicy · Jun 18, 2019

Whatever Chris is doing, whether it's a holiday or he is looking for another job, I only want to wish him the very best for the future.

GT49er · Jun 18, 2019

Spicy said:
Whatever Chris is doing, whether it's a holiday or he is looking for another job, I only want to wish him the very best for the future.

........... is the right answer.

Rogero · Jun 18, 2019

Where does Hughton live? Would he prefer the South at his age?

BNthree · Jun 18, 2019

Charlton would have been a good gig for him but seems they've sorted out the issues with their manager.

blue'n'white · Jun 18, 2019

Paris said:
Indeed, Woodgate at Boro is a disaster waiting to happen. Heard him on the radio the other day saying he was going to bring about an attacking brand of football. Also adding he won't tolerate players being late for training. I had to switch off the wireless in the end as I was so petrified.

Gibson has gone down the cheapskate route. Has got 'Next stop League One' written all over it.

Fingers crossed ! Boro deserve nothing better

Uh_huh_him · Jun 18, 2019

Blue Valkyrie said:
Yes, because the real reason *little old Brighton* were playing *above their station* could only be Chris Hughton. Pat on the head - no right to complain about tactics.

However, when it comes to their own sleeping world-beating super club, perhaps a different story ?

Well I heard the comment directly from Cardiff and Huddersfield fans. So it wasn't with any degree of patronising intent.

Seasider78 · Jun 18, 2019

mikeyjh said:
I sincerely hope not - That's not to underestimate the fantastic job he did it Brighton, he was absolutely fundamental in your ascension to the PL, but if Lampard is to leave, appointing Hughton would be such a big change in direction. Part of Lampard's remit (as was Rowett's) was to bring a style of play that reflected the academy teams and therefore enabled him to bring through players from the academy (The Derby way, you may reacall) and where Rowett disregarded that, Lampard embraced it. I don't think Hughton can, or would be willing to, do that. As mentioned elsewhere, we had the best academy team in the country this season, 18 year old Jayden Bogle played 40+ games, we had another 18 year old on the bench in the play off final. Progress on that front must be continued.

I'm sure Hughton still has a future, I just hope it's not at Derby.

I think the issue is if you are a clubs board what do you care more about promotion or youth development? That’s not to say you cannot have both but Hughtons record of getting teams up with all the riches that comes with would trump any youth development philosophy in the short term (as it did at Brighton despite our academy investment)

However I would suggest the reason we have not seen hughton on any championship short lists would be more to do with him looking for a premier league job than being overlooked by the championship promotion chasers

Albion my Albion · Jun 18, 2019

Uh_huh_him said:
The issue is more likely to be that he wants to manage in the Premier League and there aren't any vacancies yet.
When the shit starts hitting the fan in January, there may well be some clubs interested in a Manager with a track record of keeping clubs in the Division.
Pretty football or not.

One of those clubs will be Brighton & Hove FC. Many fans will be asking "Why did we ever sack a manager that never failed to keep us in the PL?"

Questions · Jun 18, 2019

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