[Cricket] Snowflake Aussies

Garry Nelson's teacher · Aug 20, 2019

seagullwedgee said:
We have a top grade bowling machine at our cricket club, and a couple of weeks ago I was feeding deliveries for a net session. For a giggle, we cranked it up to 96mph and sent a few down into an empty net. Short ones, beamers, all sorts. It was bl00dy frightening, terrifying. In loading the deliveries myself, I felt like I was firing a high powered rifle. There seems absolutely no time to react at all, these top level batters have something like 0.65 seconds to select and execute the correct shot at this pace - or get out of the way.

Reminds me of when the bell-end that is Piers Morgan was' invited' into the nets by Brett Lee. The link (if it works) is well worth looking at to see how a 'civilian' copes with really quick bowling. In fact I ended up having a bit more respect for Morgan than Lee - who deliberately bowled no-balls in order to make it even harder. I think it might have cured Morgan from labelling England's batsman as gutless and to me I think the 'snowflake banter' is a bit off-the-mark. Fast bowling can be lethal. Having watched the game (and played a bit) in the pre-helmet era, and seen guys hit - and crumple - I lookback in some amazement that more weren't really badly injured. Watching Smith collapse when hit was a serious moment and anyone who booed him when he returned to the crease might benefit from a session in the nets with Brett Lee.

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seagullwedgee · Aug 20, 2019

But you do understand people who booo Smith because he is a cheat. And do you understand people who have little sympathy for Smith being struck precisely where he was, because protection for that area was developed 5 years ago, and has since been the norm, but he chose not to use it?

Tom Hark Preston Park · Aug 20, 2019

Only way England were ever going to cope with Smith was by knocking him senseless or by poisoning his food :lol:

Triggaaar · Aug 20, 2019

Greg Bobkin said:
So basically they can dish it out, but they can't take it?

That's Australian cricket summed up.

Triggaaar · Aug 20, 2019

Greg Bobkin said:
If it's a noun, why are you using as a verb?

Triggaaar · Aug 20, 2019

Garry Nelson's teacher said:
Reminds me of when the bell-end that is Piers Morgan was' invited' into the nets by Brett Lee. The link (if it works) is well worth looking at to see how a 'civilian' copes with really quick bowling. In fact I ended up having a bit more respect for Morgan than Lee - who deliberately bowled no-balls in order to make it even harder.

I really dislike Piers, but what Brett Lee did there was totally unacceptable, he's a ****ing ****. Maybe I shouldn't have been so surprised, given the team he came from.

Watching Smith collapse when hit was a serious moment and anyone who booed him when he returned to the crease might benefit from a session in the nets with Brett Lee.

Eh? He's booed because of sandpaper-gate. What's that got to do with him getting hit?

fleet · Aug 20, 2019

BRIGHT ON Q said:
Went on Thursday and Cummins bowled bounced after bouncer at us.

Was there then too, ever ball was aimed at the head, and fast. It was effective bowling as they were hard to get out of the way of, and very hard to play. Got him a few wickets too. Archer has done nothing wrong, in fact he has done everything perfectly. It is sad that Smith got hot on the neck and no one wants to see that happen, but that could have happened with any of Cummin's deliveries too.

seagullwedgee · Aug 20, 2019

fleet said:
Was there then too, ever ball was aimed at the head, and fast. It was effective bowling as they were hard to get out of the way of, and very hard to play. Got him a few wickets too. Archer has done nothing wrong, in fact he has done everything perfectly. It is sad that Smith got hot on the neck and no one wants to see that happen, but that could have happened with any of Cummin's deliveries too.

Good post. And, I’m sorry if this offends anyone but it is my personal view. I actually did want to see Smith decked. For the very reason that bodyline bowling is a legitimate allowable tactic, and everything else had failed.

Hampster Gull · Aug 20, 2019

They don’t wear yellow for nothing, our under arm bowling web footed distant cousins

Mellotron · Aug 20, 2019

Garry Nelson's teacher said:
Watching Smith collapse when hit was a serious moment and anyone who booed him when he returned to the crease might benefit from a session in the nets with Brett Lee.

You've completely misunderstood why he was being booed. It had absolutely ZERO to do with Archer's bowling.

Garry Nelson's teacher · Aug 20, 2019

seagullwedgee said:
But you do understand people who booo Smith because he is a cheat. And do you understand people who have little sympathy for Smith being struck precisely where he was, because protection for that area was developed 5 years ago, and has since been the norm, but he chose not to use it?

If that's what rocks people's boats then so be it. I think the majority at Lord's showed a rather different face of English cricket, and one which I prefer. A few boos might well have been booze.

Garry Nelson's teacher · Aug 20, 2019

seagullwedgee said:
Good post. And, I’m sorry if this offends anyone but it is my personal view. I actually did want to see Smith decked. For the very reason that bodyline bowling is a legitimate allowable tactic, and everything else had failed.

But if he'd been carted off to hospital and was still detained there?

Sussex Nomad · Aug 20, 2019

Garry Nelson's teacher said:
But if he'd been carted off to hospital and was still detained there?

The whole thread of them being snowflakes was based on their whinging over our tactics to bounce them, despite them having no problem doing it to us. It didn't start as a Smith injury.

Questions · Aug 20, 2019

Postman Pat said:
After all Cricket Australia weren't bigging up their bowling attacks "frightening bouncer barrage" against England, about 18 months ago

Anyone old enough like me to see the battering Lilee and Thompson where delighted to give us all those years ago is enjoying every ball that has the Aussie batsmen reeling.
At least they’ve got helmets.

Thunder Bolt · Aug 20, 2019

Sussex Nomad said:
What's a sook?

Tyrone Biggums said:
Noun. sook (plural sooks) (Australia, Atlantic Canada, New Zealand, slang, derogatory) A crybaby, a complainer, a whinger

Sussex Nomad said:
Melt? Sook? Have we got google translate on here?

My translation attempt is sulk; having a sulk, sulking, being a sulk.

Sussex Nomad · Aug 20, 2019

Questions said:
Anyone old enough like me to see the battering Lilee and Thompson where delighted to give us all those years ago is enjoying every ball that has the Aussie batsmen reeling.
At least they’ve got helmets.

Absolutely, and Lillee and Thompson weren't adverse to a bit of cheating and sledging either.

Garry Nelson's teacher · Aug 20, 2019

Sussex Nomad said:
The whole thread of them being snowflakes was based on their whinging over our tactics to bounce them, despite them having no problem doing it to us. It didn't start as a Smith injury.

Indeed. I accept that many of us are guilty of double-standards. Among these, though, might be squeaky-clean Mike Atherton's ball tampering exploits in 1984. (I'm not saying there's an equivalence between his antics and the disgraceful ones of Smith and friends - but neither was their an equivalence in sanction - a £2000 fine for our Mike.)

Pompous git I may be but if you see bad sportsmanship (including ball tampering and intimidatory bowling) you call it out. If some low-life Aussies can't do that to their own, there's no reason for us to stoop to their level. Banter is great, but there's always a 'line' - and we draw it in different places. Wanting to see a guy take a head shot from a 90mph ball is on the wrong side of mine. I'll get my coat...…………..

Sussex Nomad · Aug 20, 2019

Garry Nelson's teacher said:
Indeed. I accept that many of us are guilty of double-standards. Among these, though, might be squeaky-clean Mike Atherton's ball tampering exploits in 1984. (I'm not saying there's an equivalence between his antics and the disgraceful ones of Smith and friends - but neither was their an equivalence in sanction - a £2000 fine for our Mike.)

Definitely wasn't 1984.

Hampster Gull · Aug 20, 2019

Garry Nelson's teacher said:
Indeed. I accept that many of us are guilty of double-standards. Among these, though, might be squeaky-clean Mike Atherton's ball tampering exploits in 1984. (I'm not saying there's an equivalence between his antics and the disgraceful ones of Smith and friends - but neither was their an equivalence in sanction - a £2000 fine for our Mike.)

Pompous git I may be but if you see bad sportsmanship (including ball tampering and intimidatory bowling) you call it out. If some low-life Aussies can't do that to their own, there's no reason for us to stoop to their level. Banter is great, but there's always a 'line' - and we draw it in different places. Wanting to see a guy take a head shot from a 90mph ball is on the wrong side of mine. I'll get my coat...…………..

On your way out have a look at the rules. When it’s banned then I’ll be behind you, until then the Aussies are complete and utter hypocrites. **** em

seagullwedgee · Aug 20, 2019

Garry Nelson's teacher said:
Indeed. I accept that many of us are guilty of double-standards. Among these, though, might be squeaky-clean Mike Atherton's ball tampering exploits in 1984. (I'm not saying there's an equivalence between his antics and the disgraceful ones of Smith and friends - but neither was their an equivalence in sanction - a £2000 fine for our Mike.)

Pompous git I may be but if you see bad sportsmanship (including ball tampering and intimidatory bowling) you call it out. If some low-life Aussies can't do that to their own, there's no reason for us to stoop to their level. Banter is great, but there's always a 'line' - and we draw it in different places. Wanting to see a guy take a head shot from a 90mph ball is on the wrong side of mine. I'll get my coat...…………..

And that, I honestly believe, is where you’ve got things slightly out of focus. You clearly associate intimidatory bowling with bad sportsmanship. It isn’t. It is legitimate, accepted, understood, and a central part of the game. It’s just that we haven’t been very good at this bit of the game since Devon Malcolm. And now we’re celebrating it.

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