[Albion] Emiliano Sala [signed by Cardiff, confirmed to have been on missing aircraft]

dazzer6666 · Feb 17, 2019

Tom Hark said:
Pay £15M quid for an asset? Look after it. Don't just let it jump in a plane held together with stick-back plastic sub-contracted to the friend of a friend of an agent or whatnot.

Simply, this (although it won’t be that simple, clearly). Once he’d signed, he was Cardiff’s asset, and it was up to Cardiff to protect that asset - you’d expect through suitable insurance. As far as Nantes are concerned he’d been sold.

Only get-outs would presumably be any part of the fee based on performance-related aspects such as appearances, goals etc.

Quite possible only the lawyers are going to win here now (and the parasitic agents).

East Staffs Gull · Feb 17, 2019

Tom Hark said:
Pay £15M quid for an asset? Look after it. Don't just let it jump in a plane held together with stick-back plastic sub-contracted to the friend of a friend of an agent or whatnot.

On the face of it, the player or the agent declined Cardiff’s transport arrangements, sadly resulting in Sala’s death and a significant financial loss to Cardiff. My sympathies go to his family, but I can understand how Cardiff might feel that they have somehow been “wronged”. I’m no expert on football club’s insurance arrangements, but there’s no way that I would underwrite a £15 million life assurance policy in the knowledge that the insured life was able to travel in such a manner. I’d want to load the premium massively , or, more likely, put in an exclusion.

edna krabappel · Feb 17, 2019

Tragically, he'll become more of a legend in death than he probably would have been in life.

All this public airing of dirty laundry over the fees does nobody any credit whatsoever, and lacks dignity. Hopefully Cardiff pay their dues.

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drew · Feb 17, 2019

NooBHA said:
Cardiff should be paying the full fee. They should also have at least helped with the fees to recoup his body instead of a ''public fundraising begging bowl'' to do so.

After that they should be establishing whether they have either an individual of global insurance policy which covers their loss. If there isn't they should swallow their loos and get on with it.

No use taking all the plaudits of how nice a club they are in they way that they dealt with this tragic act and then all the while seeking to avoid paying what they are due to pay.

The events are absolutely tragic but to compound them with all this tragic and underhanded dealings is truly beyond belief.

Oh and one other thing - If their Solicitor doesn't have the expertise to deal with this ''in house'' I would suggest they should sack their solicitor and find one who can

Sorry, probably didn't make myself clear. I understand most transfer fees are paid in installments so Cardiff should pay the first. They can then try and find a way to wriggle out of further payments if they are appearance related but if they can't find anyway to get out of it, and I very much doubt they can, then they should pay whats owed or suffer the consequences from the relevant authorities!

Shropshire Seagull · Feb 17, 2019

I still think the bigger story in this tragic event is the absence of the pilot's body.

I'm no Colombo, but £23k+ CCJ debts and a trained parachutist - anyone else think he jumped to a waiting boat ....
The expensive footballing loss is creating the perfect smokescreen

Mackenzie · Feb 17, 2019

Shropshire Seagull said:
I still think the bigger story in this tragic event is the absence of the pilot's body.

I'm no Colombo, but £23k+ CCJ debts and a trained parachutist - anyone else think he jumped to a waiting boat ....
The expensive footballing loss is creating the perfect smokescreen

He would have had to squeeze past Sala to get to the door, which is behind the passenger seats. He drowned.

The Antikythera Mechanism · Feb 17, 2019

Forever a bluebird until it comes to signing the cheque.

dazzer6666 · Feb 17, 2019

Mackenzie said:
He would have had to squeeze past Sala to get to the door, which is behind the passenger seats. He drowned.

This....and if he was going to do something like that, not sure January, at night, over probably the roughest part of the English Channel (where the tide race is exceptionally strong) would be where he would choose to do it anyway.

drew · Feb 17, 2019

Shropshire Seagull said:
I still think the bigger story in this tragic event is the absence of the pilot's body.

I'm no Colombo, but £23k+ CCJ debts and a trained parachutist - anyone else think he jumped to a waiting boat ....
The expensive footballing loss is creating the perfect smokescreen

Don't you think this type of conspiracy theory is in as bad taste as Cardiff refusing to pay their dues?

bobby baxter · Feb 18, 2019

Apparently the Cardiff owner, Vincent Tan, is angry because he believes Salas agent made Cardiff pay an inflated transfer fee by falsely alleging other clubs were interested in signing Sala.

Surely an astute business man like Tan would only pay what he and his advisors thought the player was worth.

drew · Feb 18, 2019

bobby baxter said:
Apparently the Cardiff owner, Vincent Tan, is angry because he believes Salas agent made Cardiff pay an inflated transfer fee by falsely alleging other clubs were interested in signing Sala.

Surely an astute business man like Tan would only pay what he and his advisors thought the player was worth.

Exactly. If he is going to take that attitude then he should be reviewing every transfer they've been involved in as every agent is likely to do what they can to inflate the deal as they get a percentage of it. He may well find that he has paid inflated prices for nearly everyone but he runs the risk of alienating all the agents who might not push players his way. There may well be a better way of doing transfers without agents getting involved but at the moment, that's the system!

Seasider78 · Mar 24, 2019

Sad to see this now playing out like this with both clubs seeking loopholes to get/avoid payment.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...city-plan-tell-fifa-deal-struck-buy-emiliano/

middletoenail · Mar 24, 2019

Talk about how to damage your brand. If Cardiff decide to go ahead with this, whether they are right in the eyes of the law, their moral compass is all over the place!

symyjym · Mar 24, 2019

If Cardiff booked his flight on a tinpot plane that flew in bad conditions then they are responsible for him under their care, but if it was his agent who booked it then I don't blame Cardiff for holding their money.

Probably the only payout will be by an insurance company but we need to find out exactly why the plane crashed first.

Geestar · Mar 24, 2019

middletoenail said:
Talk about how to damage your brand. If Cardiff decide to go ahead with this, whether they are right in the eyes of the law, their moral compass is all over the place!

I don't know.

It's a s#@t unique situation. Not really sure how to play it out but not ready to stick it to Cardiff yet

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Ninja Elephant · Mar 24, 2019

This is exactly what I've been expecting to happen, £15million is not a small number and it was fairly clear that there are too many questions about the circumstances and too much doubt about the financial liability. Call me cynical, but I don't think there's any surprise that Cardiff want to explore the legalities of this before committing to paying out and, frankly, Nantes should understand that.

Green Cross Code Man · Mar 24, 2019

Ninja Elephant said:
This is exactly what I've been expecting to happen, £15million is not a small number and it was fairly clear that there are too many questions about the circumstances and too much doubt about the financial liability. Call me cynical, but I don't think there's any surprise that Cardiff want to explore the legalities of this before committing to paying out and, frankly, Nantes should understand that.

Shouldn't it be cut and dry though? From the moment he became Cardiff's player, they should be responsible for him.

hans kraay fan club · Mar 24, 2019

Ninja Elephant said:
This is exactly what I've been expecting to happen, £15million is not a small number and it was fairly clear that there are too many questions about the circumstances and too much doubt about the financial liability. Call me cynical, but I don't think there's any surprise that Cardiff want to explore the legalities of this before committing to paying out and, frankly, Nantes should understand that.

They didn’t seem too bothered about the ‘legalities’ when they were spooning on the ‘Forever a Bluebird’ schtick. They were fairly clear that he was their player then.

Shockingly poor from Cardiff.

Ninja Elephant · Mar 24, 2019

Green Cross Code Man said:
Shouldn't it be cut and dry though? From the moment he became Cardiff's player, they should be responsible for him.

If he's not got International clearance, is he their player? Or, is it when he's cleared by the Premier League? He wasn't Premier League cleared, so was he theirs?

Also, did the flight invalidate his contract? If so, were does the liability sit in that case, with the player himself? And if the liability is with the player, do Cardiff collect the fee from his estate or do Nantes? There are probably dozens of questions being asked by all parties right now - so it makes sense not to pay any money yet but it shouldn't be played out in public. The only certainty is that playing it out in public will lead to everyone looking grubby and like a bunch of tossers.

hans kraay fan club said:
They didn’t seem too bothered about the ‘legalities’ when they were spooning on the ‘Forever a Bluebird’ schtick. They were fairly clear that he was their player then.

Shockingly poor from Cardiff.

And I guess Nantes will make this point as part of their claim - Cardiff were very clear in their "he was ours" message, all the wrangling now is in conflict to that position but will that mean they're financially liable?

Winker · Mar 24, 2019

hans kraay fan club said:
They didn’t seem too bothered about the ‘legalities’ when they were spooning on the ‘Forever a Bluebird’ schtick. They were fairly clear that he was their player then.

Shockingly poor from Cardiff.

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