If only David Cameron would follow the Australian lead.

WATFORD zero · Jun 8, 2015

alfredmizen said:
The mistake you make is portraying me as unsuccessful and blaming my poor life on immigration and everything and everyone but my own shortcomings, you couldnt be more wrong, i too come from a working class background and have taken every opportunity offered to me and despite some very major setbacks and have done very well for myself , i however , do come from an area of very high immigration, and realise that not everybody has the ability or wherewithal to leave these places behind , you can sit there all day long expounding the benefits of our wonderful multicultural melting pot, but until youve experienced first hand your home town turning into a place that resembles karachi more than it does the area you grew up in , then i wont take you seriously in any way shape or form .

But you do the same thing every time. You leap in two feet first, Mr Angry, without any knowledge of the subject and tell everyone what should be done. Your first post on this thread showed that you had no idea of the existing British laws covering this area.

Your first post to me was interesting, given you know even less about me than you do about the laws in your first post, you made all sorts of assumptions. Can you see why i may have posted that picture ?

Herr Tubthumper · Jun 8, 2015

Lovely stuff.

W.C. · Jun 8, 2015

DavidinSouthampton said:
I think you'll find we can AND DO already do this!

This should have been the end of the thread really shouldn't it?

But someone didn't take their angry pills this morning did they :yawn:

Herr Tubthumper · Jun 8, 2015

Mr Mizen, this new name and rehash off old, boring and tired material puts Beady Eye to shame :lolol:

alfredmizen · Jun 8, 2015

WATFORD zero said:
But you do the same thing every time. You leap in two feet first, Mr Angry, without any knowledge of the subject and tell everyone what should be done. Your first post on this thread showed that you had no idea of the existing British laws covering this area.

Your first post to me was interesting, given you know even less about me than you do about the laws in your first post, you made all sorts of assumptions. Can you see why i may have posted that picture ?

i knew full well what options were open to the british home secreatary, thats why i gave this post the title , as ive already explained , now explain to me what direct experience you have of immigration , and how its affected YOUR home town and any of YOUR relatives or friends who still live there.

Tom Hark Preston Park · Jun 8, 2015

alfredmizen said:
i knew full well what options were open to the british home secreatary, thats why i gave this post the title , as ive already explained , now explain to me what direct experience you have of immigration , and how its affected YOUR home town and any of YOUR relatives or friends who still live there.

You're MAGNIFICENT when you're angry :lol:

alfredmizen · Jun 8, 2015

Tom Hark said:
You're MAGNIFICENT when you're angry

Creaky · Jun 8, 2015

Personally I'd give ALL those with dual citizenship a simple choice - "choose which nation you want to pledge allegiance to"

Don Quixote · Jun 8, 2015

matthew said:
Tony Abbott - the evangenical Christian that doesn't believe in climate change despite their record breaking hot summers and forest fires. I'm against anything he's for...

Isn't he a Roman Catholic?

sydney · Jun 8, 2015

Don Quixote said:
Isn't he a Roman Catholic?

yes....yes he is..!!

Tom Hark Preston Park · Jun 8, 2015

Has to be said, the Aussie government can be pretty fascist by European standards when it comes to dealing with its borders. Just because it can. OK, it generally lets in daft Vietnamese travellers who arrive by air with a bag of live maggots with a thruppence fine and confiscation of afore-mentioned live maggots. But try and land on the Aussie mainland by sea as a refugee and you'll be carted off to Papua New Guinea with no prospect of advancing onward to Australia Fair. Refugees have been known to throw their babies into the sea to try and force the Aussie patrol boats to save them.

RyFish · Jun 8, 2015

sydney said:
he is far from a wally mate...the sad truth is that since keating hobbled off to his antique encrusted abode labour has had the political nous of a sea cucumber........Abbott , as unlikeable as he is , is no numpty.....he is actually doing what 60 % of the population want doing , he willwin the next election because labour are a pack of idiots.......fat lot of good rudd did with his fluent mandarin....**** off,if you want to do business on these shores , learn our language and adhere to our ways....its a global thing...!!

I presume the aborigines thought the same thing a couple of hundred years ago.

Herr Tubthumper · Jun 8, 2015

RyFish said:
I presume the aborigines thought the same thing a couple of hundred years ago.

There are real goons in this thread.

Nibble · Jun 8, 2015

BigGully said:
The point was obvious, he intends to use it vigorously, compared to us, we will no doubt have to jump through so many hoops to revoke a single wanna be terrosrist, we will end up inviting them back in a tagging them, whilst the culprit has an entourage of lawyers and human rights specialists and this is the Tories.

Some on here are quick to point out it is already an option, but I suspect you lot would have absolutely no intention to use it, why I do not know but its seems to be your default position.

I have no problem if it's warranted. As pointed out earlier it's only been initiated 13 times. Good. I would like to think it is used very sparingly for good reason.
We have it. We sometimes, but rarely use it. Sounds like the perfect employment of such a law.

BigGully · Jun 8, 2015

Nibble said:
I have no problem if it's warranted. As pointed out earlier it's only been initiated 13 times. Good. I would like to think it is used very sparingly for good reason.
We have it. We sometimes, but rarely use it. Sounds like the perfect employment of such a law.

I think we all agree it needs to be warranted, but when as many as 500 British citizens are fighting in Syria why would you conclude that 13 sounds like the perfect employment of such a law, to me 500 would be the ideal.

looney · Jun 8, 2015

BadFish said:
You do Bushy and you think that it represents a reasonable way to treat people (including children)?

Personally I think we should be aiming higher than "better than where they came from". the fact is that the standards on Manus Island are horrendous and have been described as such by people with far more clue (and compassion) than you. So if it is all the same to you I will take their words for it rather than yours.

Children? your not aware that most first wave immigrants are young single men?

Herr Tubthumper · Jun 8, 2015

alfredmizen;6953832[B said:
]i knew full well what options were open to the british home secreatary, thats why i gave this post the title ,[/B].

Yeah right, of course you did :lolol:

we believe you

seagullsovergrimsby · Jun 8, 2015

DavidinSouthampton said:
Funny how people's perceptions differ. My perception is that she would be deporting people for failing to pay the congestion charge within 24 hours if she could.

Much too lenient from this Government , they should take the Argentinian approach and make them disappear overnight (the mass graves wont be found for 30 years)

BadFish · Jun 8, 2015

looney said:
Children? your not aware that most first wave immigrants are young single men?

Sorry Looney, not sure of your point here. Are you suggesting that their are not children being held in detention centres?

sydney · Jun 9, 2015

RyFish said:
I presume the aborigines thought the same thing a couple of hundred years ago.

yes , that's right , let's keep this argument in the 19th century......the world was a much less complicated place then wasn't it....?

perhaps if the aborigines had been offered the dole back in 1815 the world would now be a far better place.

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