RM-Taylor
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- Jan 7, 2006
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Who do you want? I’d say we go for either Lee Johnson or Marco Bielsa - both attacking managers
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[Albion] Hughton supporters
- Thread starter SollysLeftFoot
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Who do you want? I’d say we go for either Lee Johnson or Marco Bielsa - both attacking managers
Just like Fulham’s attacking intent? They played very attractive football. Took Brighton twice.
It’s only points that count. You can only play with the hand you’ve been given. This Brighton squad are exactly where they should be. Other fans laugh at our own fans stupidly in regards to Hughton. It’s bloody ridiculous. This season started well under defensive tactics. It was the more expansive switch in tactics with the change to 4-3-3 around Christmas time that turned the season. I’m not saying Hughton is perfect. He isn’t. He makes mistakes. But he’s done what’s been asked of him since he arrived.
You can't keep on asking players to play football that way for too long a period before they lose the will to live.
The first dangerous free-kick of the game we got summed it up for me. We are poorly coached.
Skaville
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That starting eleven was utterly baffling. Gross wide right, izquierdo wide left. Reminded me of Mickey Adams Mark II. This game was crying out for 4-4-1-1 with Gross close to Murray, knocky and March out wide. Why did we have to wait 65 minutes to see the blindingly obvious? Ridiculous
Sussex Nomad
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Yet another one that has no idea that we never played 4-3-3. As soon as you use that as an argument I switch off.
father_and_son
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Today was all about selection and set up... Murray Andone Gross and Izzy up front... Bizarre!
Izzy has had a dreadful season and played dismally and over on the other wing?! Pascal Gross is *NOT* good in this position. At all. End of. Anyone surprised? No.
Solly comes on. Different game. Gross redeems himself, Solly makes every chance we have and Murray misses a sitter than would have won the game.
Completely different, but to anyone else who sees these players regularly, the second half set up was a no brainer, so why or why set up so badly in the first half? Sorry Chris... Fan up to Cardiff but you really have lost the plot now. Devoid of anything resembling footballing intelligence.
Izzy has had a dreadful season and played dismally and over on the other wing?! Pascal Gross is *NOT* good in this position. At all. End of. Anyone surprised? No.
Solly comes on. Different game. Gross redeems himself, Solly makes every chance we have and Murray misses a sitter than would have won the game.
Completely different, but to anyone else who sees these players regularly, the second half set up was a no brainer, so why or why set up so badly in the first half? Sorry Chris... Fan up to Cardiff but you really have lost the plot now. Devoid of anything resembling footballing intelligence.
Silverhatch
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Gross @ no.10 (after he'd been dog shit first half) was the first change that HAD to be made. Starting Izzy was completely baffling - the bloke looks injured and even more bereft of confidence than the other squad members. Bernardo, Stephens and Bruno showed up.
We are where we deserve to be. We ground out the point we needed to probably stay up. HUGE review needed after Man City
It's time for Hughton to stand down or be sacked at the end of the season. He's done a truly remarkable job taking us from relegation candidates down to division 1 to the Premier League and an FA cup semi final, but we can't progress any further now under him.
He would go out a legend, which is what he deserves.
My biggest concern for next season, if he remains would be how would we attract decent attacking talent when the world now knows we play with little or no attacking intent. We've effectively become an attacking players grave site with wingers asked to become auxiliary full backs and support and numbers into the box non existent.
About the only time a midfield runner got ahead of the ball was the Gross goal. Certainly in the last dozen games our default mentality as been to flood players behind the ball, to such extent we can't get out with so little pace amongst the team.
In the first half our ethos was just to get every back behind the ball. You still need to tackle, head and run. Numbers behind the ball alone won't keep clean sheets.
The starting line up picked was confused as was the first half performance.
Thankfully Cardiff and two other teams have been worse than us so far this season but next season we might not get so lucky if we survive.
He would go out a legend, which is what he deserves.
My biggest concern for next season, if he remains would be how would we attract decent attacking talent when the world now knows we play with little or no attacking intent. We've effectively become an attacking players grave site with wingers asked to become auxiliary full backs and support and numbers into the box non existent.
About the only time a midfield runner got ahead of the ball was the Gross goal. Certainly in the last dozen games our default mentality as been to flood players behind the ball, to such extent we can't get out with so little pace amongst the team.
In the first half our ethos was just to get every back behind the ball. You still need to tackle, head and run. Numbers behind the ball alone won't keep clean sheets.
The starting line up picked was confused as was the first half performance.
Thankfully Cardiff and two other teams have been worse than us so far this season but next season we might not get so lucky if we survive.
It was genuinely VERY odd wasn’t it? When I heard it was 442, I was certain it would be Knocky and March.
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I feel sorry for every Brighton STH who has renewed for next season if the man is still in place.
He will not and Can not change his philosophy of how football should be played.
It has been truly dire and when Hughton doesn't believe in his players and effectively stops them playing the way they can, it is sad.
The man's glass has always been half empty to me its now nearly dry.
STH good luck if Barber doesn't have the balls to chop him in May, you can enjoy another season of no intent.
He will not and Can not change his philosophy of how football should be played.
It has been truly dire and when Hughton doesn't believe in his players and effectively stops them playing the way they can, it is sad.
The man's glass has always been half empty to me its now nearly dry.
STH good luck if Barber doesn't have the balls to chop him in May, you can enjoy another season of no intent.
The only reason we will have stayed up with our points total is because of the shitness of three other teams. He is holding us back now.
Made some brave changes (for him) tonight?
Just playing devils advocate, I agree he cant take us any further.
BBassic
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- Jul 28, 2011
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Fulham's problem wasn't attack. It was defence. Jokanovic changed his back line more or less every game. They had the 7th best possession stats in the league the day he got the push.
Their problem were defensive and possibly a bit of naivety in game management.
- Aug 7, 2003
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You learn by your mistakes. I don’t believe Hughton is one of them. There’s enough raw data on what has gone wrong at the end of this season and what needs to be done to remedy it. I don’t believe changing the manager is one of them. This is just a personal opinion, so please treat it as such.
CaptainDaveUK
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- Oct 18, 2010
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The only club who spent less than us this season was Cardiff. The new signings haven't been the best which is really down to recruitment, not Hughton. He's pretty much kept us up. Although if we get a new quality striker and number 10 ready for preseason, I suspect we will do better next year. Playing attacking football with our current squad will get us relegated.
Skaville
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There are three better choices ahead of Gross on the right side. March, knockaert and jahanbakhsh. Just so bizarre
Then you have the left. Izquierdo entirely lacking fitness and form. Surely March and Locadia should be ahead of him.
Finally, why start two up top for the first time in two seasons for such an important game. Play a system we know for gods sake.
The only credit he can realistically take is acknowledging it wasn’t working and changing it, something he has regularly failed to do.
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Deadly Danson
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And it is a playground. The same posters saying the same thing over and over and over again. We get it. Personally I think it may be time for a change if we stay up but there is a very real chance we could get someone who will take us straight down, even if we play more entertaining football. But it amazes me how many times the same constantly negative posters say the same constantly negative things.
OK. So I can come back and admit to being 50% idiot. I'm thrilled and relieved with the point but I don't really see that it changes all that much in terms of how we go forward next season.
The thing is that the players that we have can play. If you think back to the early part of the season, we showed that we could attack once we went behind. There were those consecutive two all draws from two goals down and having Tottenham hanging on when we nearly pulled the same trick. So why, as the season has progressed, have we become more and more withdrawn? I can't bring myself to believe its the players but what they are being asked to do.
Even if we are in the Premier League next season, there needs to be a colossal learning exercise over the summer. Personally I would prefer a change in manager but I accept that it might not happen. Uncle Tony holds the purse strings and it's his call. Fortunately I do have complete faith in his ability to see us right over the longer term.