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[Politics] Dominic Grieve.
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fekkin good job too ....
Publius Ovidius
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dingodan
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- Feb 16, 2011
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"Change". What lead by the quintessential politician Chuka Umunna?
Yeah that's believable.
"Former Labour shadow minister Chuka Umunna has described claims that the campaign for a second Brexit referendum is cover for the creation of a new centrist political party as "utter bollocks".
Allegations that the People's Vote group calling for another poll on Britain's relationship with the EU was a smokescreen for disaffected MPs to breakaway under his leadership were "false news", the London MP told the Guardian."
https://www.aol.co.uk/news/2018/08/...lk-of-new-political-party-plan-under-cover-of
6 months later...
Once a snide, deceitful, self serving, sanctimonious, self righteous politician, always a snide, deceitful, self serving, sanctimonious, self righteous politician.
Cian
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FPTP is a ridiculous anachronism that means that this is even a problem. Grieve would get re-elected no matter what party he was running for in a multi member constituency - and quite a lot of the jokeshop MPs all around wouldn't have ever got in.
clapham_gull
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- Aug 20, 2003
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Well the Peoples Vote campaign and the Independent group are very separate entities. I'm not a supporter of his but it's fair to say his split away from the Labour party has more to do with Corbyn than the referendum.
I travel down to Sussex every now and then and Waterloo East (as opposed to Waterloo) is my station of choice because it's very very quiet and on the line to Hastings between Charing Cross and London Bridge.
I get off at a small village down there that doesn't even have a shop or a nearby pub.
I read somewhere (possibly Private Eye) that a small group of Labour MPs were taking the exact same journey (less likely to be spotted) and renting a property in the village. It was confirmed to me by a taxi driver. This was possibly a year ago.
I suspect the new "party" didn't have much traction until a few disaffected Tories jumped ship. From what I've read about the Peoples Vote people, they weren't very happy because they didn't want to be associated with a single party.
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- Nov 11, 2009
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Don't be daft. UKIP are hard right on the lunatic fringes. Tories are centre right. Lib Dems centre left. Current Labour hard left on the lunatic fringes.
And why not?
I would imagine a majority of electors in most constituencies would bring back hanging. And MPs resist it.
If only more had the balls to oppose this absurd suicidal brexit bollocks.
If my MP stood on hanging and I voted him in, I'd rightly be pissed off if he turned all hippy in the house. This ain't that. Not event Boris stood on a Brexit platform in the election but one ago
dingodan
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- Feb 16, 2011
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Yeah or I don't know, maybe he's a politician.
Good luck with "Change". "Yes they can". "[Insert flashy PR formulation here]".
clapham_gull
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- Aug 20, 2003
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Not just momentum and labour deselection that is mad and wrong, then. Who knew?
Apparently when this happened before a quick phone call is made from head office and it stops quite quickly.
I understand they can't actually deselect him under Tory party rules.
- Nov 11, 2009
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You're observation is spot on.... If you have the time there is a brilliant article (written from a European perspective) that details exactly how the EU moved quickly to out flank our negotiators and to set the field of play and the rules of every stage of the process.
Despite it being branded as "May's deal" the end result, is it's a carefully crafted international treaty whose process was almost entirely controlled by the EU and whose terms are almost entirely in their favour. It is crap, our lack of foresight meant we walked into a game of poker where the cards were already laid out on table. It's a great insight into the process..... https://www.politico.eu/article/how-uk-lost-brexit-eu-negotiation/
pb21
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- Apr 23, 2010
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With hindsight it was a rushed and poor decision. At the time however there was much Brexit fervour and a tory leadership election/new leader. Imagine now then if May had said I will trigger/invoke A50 within my time as PM, she was pressured by the situation to do this almost instantly.
We should learn from our mistakes.
Some folk seem to think they can. It is the unicorn believers, though:
https://leave.eu/deselect-your-remainer-tory-mp/
Leave.EU is targeting for deselection those Conservative MPs obstructing the people’s will.
We are building a network of Tory Party Members agitating to get their Remainer MP booted out. If you’re dissatisfied with your Conservative Member of Parliament and want to do something about it, why not get in touch with our team? Email: info@leave.eu
Click the this Hansard ink to find out if your MP voted in favour of Theresa May’s dismal dea
So are they looking to deselect JRM/Boris?
Well [MENTION=865]clapham_gull[/MENTION] says it is against Conservative rules to deselect a sitting MP, hence my unicorn comment. They can try . . . . just as I can try to fly by flapping my arms
Typical 'leave EU'.
Pinkie Brown
I'll look after the skirt
Under rule changes agreed at a past conference, Labour have made it easier for shouty Corbynista activists to deselect a sitting MP who doesn't conform to their ideology. Ironically, when Corbyn was once under threat of deselection in Islington North, Tony Blair stepped in to save his neck and stopped the move.
vegster
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- May 5, 2008
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A long read,but interesting, Bloody EU meddlers, we should leave I reckon.
Leekbrookgull
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Let's vote on it.