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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


  • Total voters
    1,081


Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
70,187
It's just truly weird that just a couple of weeks from the deadline we"ll just crash out - that the EU will hold us to unless we come up with a very good reason not to. How on earth is industry supposed to cope? Even the most agile will struggle bigtime. Time to vote every single one of those self-serving ****s in parliament out of office. Rip it up and start again.
 




nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,595
Gods country fortnightly




nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,595
Gods country fortnightly
It's just truly weird that just a couple of weeks from the deadline we"ll just crash out - that the EU will hold us to unless we come up with a very good reason not to. How on earth is industry supposed to cope? Even the most agile will struggle bigtime. Time to vote every single one of those self-serving ****s in parliament out of office. Rip it up and start again.

The Irish border is the problem, we should have considered the whole of UK before, we let the genie out of the bottle.

Maybe we just have to break up the UK for the English Brexit, there are no easy choices. The Irish border ain't the Swiss Border...
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
The Irish border is the problem, we should have considered the whole of UK before, we let the genie out of the bottle.

Maybe we just have to break up the UK for the English Brexit, there are no easy choices. The Irish border ain't the Swiss Border...

Scotland voted 62% to 38% to Remain, and feel the English are dragging them where they don't want to go.
NI wasn't quite as high but was still 56% to 44%.

Wales was 52% Leave 47% Remain but that has switched now to 41% Leave to 45% Remain because they've realised they will be losing their EU grants.
 




Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
70,187
The Irish border is the problem, we should have considered the whole of UK before, we let the genie out of the bottle.

Maybe we just have to break up the UK for the English Brexit, there are no easy choices. The Irish border ain't the Swiss Border...

Everything always comes down to Northern ****ing Ireland. Referendum time up there? Stay with the UK or not? Keep doing it on a regular basis til Ireland gets its Six Counties back?
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
It's just truly weird that just a couple of weeks from the deadline we"ll just crash out - that the EU will hold us to unless we come up with a very good reason not to. How on earth is industry supposed to cope? Even the most agile will struggle bigtime. Time to vote every single one of those self-serving ****s in parliament out of office. Rip it up and start again.

The EU isn't holding us to anything. Article 50 was written by Lord Kerr (a Brit) with the timeline of 2 years. We chose whether we want to crash out, or ask to extend it, or even revoke it (which doesn't need anyone's say so)
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Everything always comes down to Northern ****ing Ireland. Referendum time up there? Stay with the UK or not? Keep doing it on a regular basis til the Catholics win?

Ireland, Northern Ireland and the UK all agreed to the Good Friday Agreement which is an international treaty ratified by the United Nations. The UK are the ones who want to rip it up because it doesn't suit us anymore.
 




Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,023
The arse end of Hangleton
Scotland voted 62% to 38% to Remain, and feel the English are dragging them where they don't want to go.
NI wasn't quite as high but was still 56% to 44%.

Wales was 52% Leave 47% Remain but that has switched now to 41% Leave to 45% Remain because they've realised they will be losing their EU grants.

And has been explained again and again and again and again the vote wasn't based on street, city, constituency, county or even country - it was one vote for each person in the UK as a whole. It's irrelevent how a street, city, constituency, county or even country voted.
 


Behind Enemy Lines

Well-known member
Jul 18, 2003
4,805
London
Three weeks to go. THREE weeks! Andunbelievably we still don’t have anything in place. Imagine if you run an import export business? Christ Alive. The whole thing is embarrassing and it shames the nation.
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,595
Gods country fortnightly
Scotland voted 62% to 38% to Remain, and feel the English are dragging them where they don't want to go.
NI wasn't quite as high but was still 56% to 44%.

Wales was 52% Leave 47% Remain but that has switched now to 41% Leave to 45% Remain because they've realised they will be losing their EU grants.

Really to be a successful Brexit all the countries to be onboard not just two, really there lies the problem. Its an English tantrum that may ultimately destroy the UK
 






Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
And has been explained again and again and again and again the vote wasn't based on street, city, constituency, county or even country - it was one vote for each person in the UK as a whole. It's irrelevent how a street, city, constituency, county or even country voted.

I was replying to nicko so save your typing fingers. It was relevant to his post.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Really to be a successful Brexit all the countries to be onboard not just two, really there lies the problem. Its an English tantrum that may ultimately destroy the UK

Exactly my point, and after this has blown over, I can see the break up of the UK.
 




Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
30,582
And has been explained again and again and again and again the vote wasn't based on street, city, constituency, county or even country - it was one vote for each person in the UK as a whole. It's irrelevent how a street, city, constituency, county or even country voted.

The UK offered Scotland a chance to have its own Parliament - which it took by a large majority - and now they elect MSPs, raise their own taxes, run much of the country themselves, yet when it votes unequivocally to Remain it is told it must Leave because it is the 'Will of the People'. That is f*cked up democracy.
 


Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
19,718
Eastbourne
The UK offered Scotland a chance to have its own Parliament - which it took by a large majority - and now they elect MSPs, raise their own taxes, run much of the country themselves, yet when it votes unequivocally to Remain it is told it must Leave because it is the 'Will of the People'. That is f*cked up democracy.

So should England be dictated to by Scotland? I notice the same argument is never applied in reverse. If it unfair that the majority vote is carried out, how on Earth could it be fair that you argue that the minority should overrule the majority? That is extremely illogical.
 








Stat Brother

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
73,715
West west west Sussex
The referendum was a UK wide vote which everyone understood and accepted ... until the side that didn't expect to lose lost.

The sad fact is had the 52/48 gone the other way the side that lost also wouldn't have accepted it, and were, even before the result making moves to challenge it.
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,023
The arse end of Hangleton
The UK offered Scotland a chance to have its own Parliament - which it took by a large majority - and now they elect MSPs, raise their own taxes, run much of the country themselves, yet when it votes unequivocally to Remain it is told it must Leave because it is the 'Will of the People'. That is f*cked up democracy.

Remind me what percentage of the UK vote the SNP got and what percentage of the UK Parliament MP seats it holds ?
 


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