[Politics] EU Elections Poll - The vote that we never thought we would get!

Chicken Run · May 27, 2019

daveinplzen said:
Yet, you seem desperate to leave it. A seeker of the truth, cool.

Maybe you are the one who could tell me what demonstrably true positives there are, regarding the countries future, and economic welfare, when or If leaving the EU?

We’re leaving Dave, I don’t have to explain any benefits to you, I got my way, get over it mate [emoji23]

Chicken Run · May 27, 2019

Herr Tubthumper said:
place
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noun
1.
a particular position, point, or area in space; a location.

I think it is.

We all know you think it is [emoji23]

daveinplzen · May 27, 2019

Chicken Run said:
We’re leaving Dave, I don’t have to explain any benefits to you, I got my way, get over it mate [emoji23]

Im over it. Im protected from it. You dont have to explain anything, its the usual answer from Brexiteers if asked for any facts.
Got your way? Really? Thats pretty funny. You are experiencing what you wanted?

Baker lite · May 27, 2019

It would appear that, including the partys that stood at the last election on a manifesto to honour the result of the 2016 referendum, partys committed to leave totalled 58.1 percent, the king maker here are the Labour Party whose manifesto promises could well be renegade upon, that would surely devastate further their vote in the Northern heartland, interesting times ahead, will the Labour Party renege and risk obliterating their heartlands or will they honour their manifesto?
The 58.1 percentage figures come from The Brexit party, The
Labour Party, The Conservative party and UKIPs combined share of the vote.

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Herr Tubthumper · May 27, 2019

Chicken Run said:
We’re leaving Dave, I don’t have to explain any benefits to you, I got my way, get over it mate [emoji23]

I agree. You don’t have explain anything. But to bang on about stuff and then go quiet when challenged makes you look rather vacuous.

Eeyore · May 27, 2019

Baker lite said:
It would appear that, including the partys that stood at the last election on a manifesto to honour the result of the 2016 referendum, partys committed to leave totalled 58.1 percent, the king maker here are the Labour Party whose manifesto promises could well be renegade upon, that would surely devastate further their vote in the Northern heartland, interesting times ahead, will the Labour Party renege and risk obliterating their heartlands or will they honour their manifesto?
The 58.1 percentage figures come from The Brexit party, The
Labour Party, The Conservative party and UKIPs combined share of the vote.

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Two thirds of Labour voters are remainers.

About 20% of Tories (not sure on that one).

What's for sure is that there is a strong majority against a hard BREXIT. Although Farage, Johnson at al refuse to acknowledge this as they need to appeal to those who vote for them.

Raleigh Chopper · May 27, 2019

Chicken Run said:
We’re leaving Dave, I don’t have to explain any benefits to you, I got my way, get over it mate [emoji23]

Because they are very few and you know it.
A typical head in the sand reply.
My little daughter got her own way today and got her ice cream that makes you and her level on 1-1.
And she also goes nah nah nah with her fingers in her ears when you try and talk to her, but she is 7.

Chicken Run · May 27, 2019

Raleigh Chopper said:
Because they are very few and you know it.
A typical head in the sand reply.
My little daughter got her own way today and got her ice cream that makes you and her level on 1-1.
And she also goes nah nah nah with her fingers in her ears when you try and talk to her, but she is 7.

Pathetic

daveinplzen · May 27, 2019

Chicken Run said:
Pathetic

Prove him wrong with some extensive lists of positives.

WATFORD zero · May 27, 2019

Brighton Lines said:
Two thirds of Labour voters are remainers.

About 20% of Tories (not sure on that one).

What's for sure is that there is a strong majority against a hard BREXIT. Although Farage, Johnson at al refuse to acknowledge this as they need to appeal to those who vote for them.

I don't think you understand, [MENTION=35289]Baker lite[/MENTION] has his own method of counting Brexit votes. Just like he had his own EU leaving date of 29th March 2019, which he apparently stuck to :facepalm:

Chicken Run said:
We’re leaving Dave,

And what date are you going to leave then ?

It's just at the moment Brexit does seem to be suffering from the teenage sex syndrome. There's lots of talk about dates and action but nothing ever happens :shrug:

maltaseagull · May 27, 2019

daveinplzen said:
Prove him wrong with some extensive lists of positives.

I am not sure that there are that many.

The fact is that the gap between leave and remain just continues to show how divided the country is.
Not sure how anyone can fix it.

WATFORD zero · May 27, 2019

Nigel Farage demanded a seat at Brexit negotiations on Monday after his new party swept to victory in the United Kingdom’s European Parliament election

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-eu-election-britain-farage/nigel-farage-demands-a-seat-at-brexit-talks-idUKKCN1SX0CD

No Nige, you're a Member of the European Parliament. To be part of the Brexit negotiations you need to be elected to the British Parliament.

The one you have tried to get elected to seven times and lost every time, remember ? Surely, even you must remember when you were beaten by a man in a dolphin costume

It's no wonder his supporters get so easily confused :facepalm:

Weststander · May 27, 2019

The collapse in the Labour vote is astonishing, after 9 years of austerity, they should be trouncing all and sundry as they prepare for government.

Alastair Campbell was brilliant this morning “Corbyn and his close advisors are pretending to be Remainers to remain voters, Brexiteers to Brexit voters, and the electorate can see through it”.

daveinplzen · May 27, 2019

maltaseagull said:
I am not sure that there are that many.

The fact is that the gap between leave and remain just continues to show how divided the country is.
Not sure how anyone can fix it.

Me neither. When people have swallowed a lot of bs, its difficult for them to save face on forums and down the pub where they have been talking crap for the last three years regarding Brexit.
If leavers could provide some serious, reality based facts concerning some positives, maybe ill think more about going along with it, but lets face it, they have no idea. At all. Their vote was (among reasons given) to 'give one to the political elite' , and laughably are now championing an Eton educated Tory as the next PM.
To control immigration, the mechanisms of which are in place already, but no British government have implemented them.
Over full hospitals and Doctors surgeries. Nurses and Doctors are leaving now, and European nurses wanting to come to the UK to work is down by 90%. Im guessing that wasnt the plan.
My favourite. We can trade with the whole world. Leaving the richest, and largest trading bloc in the world, to trade with the 'rest of the world' that is mostly poor, and already have trade deals with them anyway, via the EU.
Corporations moving their HQs to the EU countries.
The EU will break up. More chance of the Union doing that at the moment.
Job losses in the manufacturing sector, particularly in the motor industry, despite them ''needing us more that we need them'', aircraft industry and steel
Country is completely fractured in half, and according to the Bank Of England, the country is losing 800 million a week thanks to Brexit uncertainty. So, im really curious as to why leavers voted to hurt the Economy.

Chicken Run · May 27, 2019

daveinplzen said:
Prove him wrong with some extensive lists of positives.

Decentralizing European Political Control

Escaping Illiberal Values

Increased Free Trade

Reduced Economic Migration

We Make our own laws and no longer have to pander to the European Courts.

I could go on but you will criticise everyone of the above claiming to know better when in fact you haven’t actually got the first clue of the post EU UK landscape would be.

Chicken Run · May 27, 2019

daveinplzen said:
Prove him wrong with some extensive lists of positives.

Decentralizing European Political Control

Escaping Illiberal Values

Increased Free Trade

Reduced Economic Migration

I could go on but you will critique everything that I say which if fine by me except you have no real clue like me what a post Brexit UK will be like , I voted for change and was prepared for the risk.

daveinplzen · May 27, 2019

Chicken Run said:
Decentralizing European Political Control

Escaping Illiberal Values

Increased Free Trade

Reduced Economic Migration

We Make our own laws and no longer have to pander to the European Courts.

I could go on but you will criticise everyone of the above claiming to know better when in fact you haven’t actually got the first clue of the post EU UK landscape would be.

Decentralizing European Political Control, and handing it over the the cluster****s who are leading the UK presently? Cool.

Escaping Illiberal Values, yeah of course, much better to move on to being racist, xenophobic, homophobic, and misogynistic

Increased Free Trade, this one I love. Increased?? With who? The same people we already trade with, on less favourable terms, or have you found an untapped source for future trade?

Reduced Economic Migration, to repeat, the mechanisms to control that have been in place for some time, and no British government has applied them. Maybe they will when you have wrested control back from the Centrol European controllers.

You clearly have LESS idea what a post Brexit will look like, so its quite something for you to vote for the unknown concerning the countries economic future, and the lives of future generations.

Its also nothing to do with me claiming to know better. What ive said are facts. Nothing to do with me claiming to know better. Go and look for yourself. Its reality. There are no unicorns.

Baker lite · May 27, 2019

WATFORD zero said:
I don't think you understand, [MENTION=35289]Baker lite[/MENTION] has his own method of counting Brexit votes. Just like he had his own EU leaving date of 29th March 2019, which he apparently stuck to

And what date are you going to leave then ?

It's just at the moment Brexit does seem to be suffering from the teenage sex syndrome. There's lots of talk about dates and action but nothing ever happens

These were the figures made public on various news agency sites, various partys, offering a manifesto to honour the 2016 and also the six week old Brexit party, the figures add up, 58.1 percent, I do apologise if this does not fit in with your Alistair (war criminal) Cambell thinking.

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Chicken Run · May 27, 2019

daveinplzen said:
Decentralizing European Political Control, and handing it over the the cluster****s who are leading the UK presently? Cool.

Escaping Illiberal Values, yeah of course, much better to move on to being racist, xenophobic, homophobic, and misogynistic

Increased Free Trade, this one I love. Increased?? With who? The same people we already trade with, on less favourable terms, or have you found an untapped source for future trade?

Reduced Economic Migration, to repeat, the mechanisms to control that have been in place for some time, and no British government has applied them. Maybe they will when you have wrested control back from the Centrol European controllers.

You clearly have LESS idea what a post Brexit will look like, so its quite something for you to vote for the unknown concerning the countries economic future, and the lives of future generations.

Its also nothing to do with me claiming to know better. What ive said are facts. Nothing to do with me claiming to know better. Go and look for yourself. Its reality. There are no unicorns.

Expected nothing less, and I’ve known you on this forum for at least 15 years and your online persona defines “know it all”

daveinplzen · May 27, 2019

Chicken Run said:
Expected nothing less, and I’ve known you on this forum for at least 15 years and your online persona defines “know it all”

So, prove to me that im wrong. No need to start getting personal because you cant answer.

Lets go with just the trade. You say there will be ''increased free trade''. Could you expand on that?
Im really curious to know what you mean.

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