[Politics] Corbyn backing the other side..........again

lawros left foot · Jun 15, 2019

The Americans have form for making up ‘incidents ‘ to justify wars against smaller nations. The Tonkin Bay incident to escalate the war against North Vietnam, and, of course, the mythical WMD that kicked off the second Gulf War.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident

https://beta.washingtonpost.com/pol...e-failure-or-white-house-spin/?outputType=amp

Guinness Boy · Jun 15, 2019

wellquickwoody said:
Blair believed he was doing the right thing, cannot ask any more of a man than that. Corbyn being right is quite possible in a moral sense, but being capable of being a leader of one of the biggest economies in the world requires pragmatism, the man is not capable of that.

So, what gives you the right to preach about what I can and cannot have an opinion about?

Well there's nothing pragmatic about Trump. The guy is a gung-ho liar. Anyone who refuses to swallow his bullshit blindly is being pragmatic. IMHO like.

And I didn't say you couldn't have an opinion. I said

" Not that Corbyn has anything to do with the way Melbourne is run anyway."

I've still got an opinion on Taiwanese politics, having lived there for three years but I haven't even visited since 2006. Come to think of it I've displayed an interest in American politics just up there ^

The point is Britain joining a war on Iran or trade sancations on Iran or, for that matter, Corbyn getting elected, will affect others on this thread much more than you. it's only fair to call it out when you started the thread.

BLOCK F · Jun 15, 2019

Please, please, great British public, never ever let Corbyn anywhere near 10 Downing St.

GrizzlingGammon · Jun 15, 2019

wellquickwoody said:
Blair believed he was doing the right thing, cannot ask any more of a man than that. Corbyn being right is quite possible in a moral sense, but being capable of being a leader of one of the biggest economies in the world requires pragmatism, the man is not capable of that.

So, what gives you the right to preach about what I can and cannot have an opinion about?

Corbyn's tweet:
Britain should act to ease tensions in the Gulf, not fuel a military escalation that began with US withdrawal from the Iran nuclear agreement. Without credible evidence about the tanker attacks, the government’s rhetoric will only increase the threat of war.

What's the issue? He wants more evidence, not to start another Middle Eastern war.

wellquickwoody · Jun 15, 2019

Guinness Boy said:
Well there's nothing pragmatic about Trump. The guy is a gung-ho liar. Anyone who refuses to swallow his bullshit blindly is being pragmatic. IMHO like.

And I didn't say you couldn't have an opinion. I said

" Not that Corbyn has anything to do with the way Melbourne is run anyway."

I've still got an opinion on Taiwanese politics, having lived there for three years but I haven't even visited since 2006. Come to think of it I've displayed an interest in American politics just up there ^

The point is Britain joining a war on Iran or trade sancations on Iran or, for that matter, Corbyn getting elected, will affect others on this thread much more than you. it's only fair to call it out when you started the thread.

Maybe I should call you out (what a crap term) for having an opinion on Trump blah blah blah.....but I can’t be arsed really.

Diablo · Jun 15, 2019

GrizzlingGammon said:
Corbyn's tweet:
Britain should act to ease tensions in the Gulf, not fuel a military escalation that began with US withdrawal from the Iran nuclear agreement. Without credible evidence about the tanker attacks, the government’s rhetoric will only increase the threat of war.

What's the issue? He wants more evidence, not to start another Middle Eastern war.

How long would Corbyn back pedal ?? With him in power our enemies will know we are weak !!! Russia,Iran etc would be laughing out loud.

GrizzlingGammon · Jun 15, 2019

Diablo said:
How long would Corbyn back pedal ?? With him in power our enemies will know we are weak !!! Russia,Iran etc would be laughing out loud.

He's not back pedalling.

GrizzlingGammon · Jun 15, 2019

wellquickwoody said:
Maybe I should call you out (what a crap term) for having an opinion on Trump blah blah blah.....but I can’t be arsed really.

You keep avoiding questions and keep spouting nonsense.

wellquickwoody · Jun 15, 2019

GrizzlingGammon said:
You keep avoiding questions and keep spouting nonsense.

You no doubt keep defending the indefensible, Jeremy Corbyn, a lifelong supporter of the other side, whoever it is. Would probably side with Mars if there was a nuclear war with Earth.

Diablo · Jun 15, 2019

Get Real....Salisbury poisoning he believed ""it was "very clear" the nerve agent was "very similar" to those made in Russia"" but wouldn`t condemn them. Pictures of Iranian Boat alongside tanker. Not conclusive evidence?

If he was to get in no 10. Russian warplanes over London... "No threat" Russians say they`re not armed.

GrizzlingGammon · Jun 15, 2019

wellquickwoody said:
You no doubt keep defending the indefensible, Jeremy Corbyn, a lifelong supporter of the other side, whoever it is. Would probably side with Mars if there was a nuclear war with Earth.

Corbyn's tweet:
Britain should act to ease tensions in the Gulf, not fuel a military escalation that began with US withdrawal from the Iran nuclear agreement. Without credible evidence about the tanker attacks, the government’s rhetoric will only increase the threat of war.

What is wrong with what he says? Do you disagree with easing tensions? Do you want military action based on a US video? Why do you have a hate of credible evidence?

Diablo · Jun 15, 2019

GrizzlingGammon said:
He's not back pedalling.

Get Real....Salisbury poisoning he believed ""it was "very clear" the nerve agent was "very similar" to those made in Russia"" but wouldn`t condemn them. Pictures of Iranian Boat alongside tanker. Not conclusive evidence?

If he was to get in no 10. Russian warplanes over London... "No threat" Russians say they`re not armed.

LowKarate · Jun 15, 2019

Green Cross Code Man said:
It is an interesting one, if he were to become PM, to have our top politician at odds with our intelligence services. Something would have to give.

What gives?

darkwolf666 · Jun 15, 2019

bWize said:
Not sure how asking for verification of the evidence and making sure it's credible is "backing the other side"? - I support the call, especially after the previous lies involving Iraq.

Maybe they are using their weapons of mass destruction that the intelligence services were so sure of last time around!

Not saying it wasn't Iran, but clear evidence needs to be provided before Trump has an excuse to go wading in...

Albion Dan · Jun 15, 2019

Live by the sea said:
Blair didn't lie, he was given misleading info from the Americans

Rubbish

darkwolf666 · Jun 15, 2019

GrizzlingGammon said:
Corbyn's tweet:
Britain should act to ease tensions in the Gulf, not fuel a military escalation that began with US withdrawal from the Iran nuclear agreement. Without credible evidence about the tanker attacks, the government’s rhetoric will only increase the threat of war.

What is wrong with what he says? Do you disagree with easing tensions? Do you want military action based on a US video? Why do you have a hate of credible evidence?

No, he just wants to "bash" Corbyn...

wellquickwoody · Jun 15, 2019

GrizzlingGammon said:
Corbyn's tweet:
Britain should act to ease tensions in the Gulf, not fuel a military escalation that began with US withdrawal from the Iran nuclear agreement. Without credible evidence about the tanker attacks, the government’s rhetoric will only increase the threat of war.

What is wrong with what he says? Do you disagree with easing tensions? Do you want military action based on a US video? Why do you have a hate of credible evidence?

He would not condemn Russia over Salisbury. He actively supported Sinn Fein.

Credible in the Gulf equals Iranian threats, video of Iranian vessels alongside the tankers, and UK not US security services blaming Iran.

But Jeremy says different.

You really are a complete idiot.

GrizzlingGammon · Jun 15, 2019

wellquickwoody said:
He would not condemn Russia over Salisbury. He actively supported Sinn Fein.

Credible in the Gulf equals Iranian threats, video of Iranian vessels alongside the tankers, and UK not US security services blaming Iran.

But Jeremy says different.

You really are a complete idiot.

This is the bit that makes you look a bit of a dick, a woody

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He has not said different. He wants definitive evidence.

maltaseagull · Jun 15, 2019

Shame Corbyn wasn't in charge then to ensure that evidence was genuine !

Thousands of lives would be very different.

wellquickwoody · Jun 15, 2019

GrizzlingGammon said:
This is the bit that makes you look a bit of a dick, a woody .

He has not said different. He wants definitive evidence.

But as usual has failed to state what definitive evidence is, many might say that the UK security services verdict is definitive evidence. But Jeremy says different, again.

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