Does anyone have mental health problems?

Albion my Albion · Feb 22, 2017

Pretty pink fairy said:
i'd suggest this forum could affect someone's mental health especially if they take it all to heart what's posted to them
regards
DR

Absoluetly! Why worry about being diagnosed with mental health problems by people with their own mental health problems. Just own it and feel free to express your own mental health problems in a way that makes you unique.

pearl · Feb 22, 2017

Dale Jasper said:
the best advice I can give anyone with depression is be your own best friend. Friends and family will do what they can, councilling will help, antidepressants will paper over the cracks. But ultimately you need to take responsibility for yourself.
I would strongly advise adapting your lifestyle to a way that combats depression - for a start that means exercise, no substance abuse and Being kind to yourself.

This thread has been great by the way

good advice, I would add do not use alcohol to self medicate. It's good to meet up after football for a beer, but sitting at home drinking alone will make your problems worse and you will end up in a cycle of needing a drink to combat the depression alcohol has caused. MH issues and booze is a bad combination

Sussex Nomad · Feb 22, 2017

On reflection I should probably not have started this thread. Let me just say to those that think people like me crumble at nasty posts, I seriously do not. There isn't a person on NSC that 'upsets' me. We are all entitled to our opinions. When we are at a low point we do reach out. It may be seen as attention seeking, but that really isn't my personal goal. I'd like to thank all of you that PM'd me. Perhaps this whole thread would be better deleted by the mods.

Wardy's twin · Feb 22, 2017

Not sure if it has been said but exercise is important for mental health as much as physical health. Working out will produce endorphins which will generate a positive feeling. If you are not doing any regular exercise then you need to be very careful, start little by little and build up.

As one who has been there, I will reiterate how important it is to accept there is an issue and be open about it and seek professional help and do so now and don't let it drag on.

I am not a professional person but if you want to PM me then do so.

Bold Seagull · Feb 22, 2017

Sussex Nomad said:
On reflection I should probably not have started this thread. Let me just say to those that think people like me crumble at nasty posts, I seriously do not. There isn't a person on NSC that 'upsets' me. We are all entitled to our opinions. When we are at a low point we do reach out. It may be seen as attention seeking, but that really isn't my personal goal. I'd like to thank all of you that PM'd me. Perhaps this whole thread would be better deleted by the mods.

There have been 223 posts. You could count on one hand those that were not supportive not just of you, but of the issue in general, and of other posters. Anything that raises awareness is a good thing. There have been some good links and good advice. You may have started the thread, but others have shared their own issues, bought their own experiences into the discussion. It has been a positive thread on the whole, not attention seeking by any means, and I honestly don't think it has been viewed in that way. I'd like to feel the very opposite is true and that it should stay and be bounced whenever anyone else is having a bit of a wobble. You know, you may well have helped a few other people too.

Sussex Nomad · Feb 22, 2017

Wardy's twin said:
Not sure if it has been said but exercise is important for mental health as much as physical health. Working out will produce endorphins which will generate a positive feeling. If you are not doing any regular exercise then you need to be very careful, start little by little and build up.

As one who has been there, I will reiterate how important it is to accept there is an issue and be open about it and seek professional help and do so now and don't let it drag on.

I am not a professional person but if you want to PM me then do so.

I played footy until I was 50 but I have quite chronic (at times) sciatica so keeping fit is difficult.

Sussex Nomad · Feb 22, 2017

Bold Seagull said:
You know, you may well have helped a few other people too.

That would be good.

dazzer6666 · Feb 22, 2017

Bold Seagull said:
There have been 223 posts. You could count on one hand those that were not supportive not just of you, but of the issue in general, and of other posters. Anything that raises awareness is a good thing. There have been some good links and good advice. You may have started the thread, but others have shared their own issues, bought their own experiences into the discussion. It has been a positive thread on the whole, not attention seeking by any means, and I honestly don't think it has been viewed in that way. I'd like to feel the very opposite is true and that it should stay and be bounced whenever anyone else is having a bit of a wobble. You know, you may well have helped a few other people too.

100% this.

Durlston · Feb 22, 2017

Grombleton said:
I was diagnosed with anxiety and depression 9 years ago.

Some days are ok and I can function like any regular person in society. Other days I don't leave my bed and i barely function. It's cost me one stable relationship and one unstable one and less than 2 weeks ago I attempted to take my own life.

I've been seeing a counsellor for a year and have been on a variety of different medication to keep myself going. Each day is a challenge - sometimes I win, sometimes I lose. Some have it a lot worse than I do, a lot worse and i'm fully aware of that.

My inbox is always open for anyone that wants to offload, chat or whatever. It's very, very easy to feel alone when straddled with the Black Dog, but there's always a small glimmer of possibility and hope. It's not always clear and it's not always attainable, but it's there.

Sorry to hear what you've gone through, Grombleton.

Without my medication for bipolar disorder and diazepam I couldn't fit in to society. In fact like you said, I'd struggle to get out of bed and hold down a job that enables me to interact with people. I've seen some horrible people at a mental health centre that seem to enjoy putting me down but I feel stronger now than I did three or four years ago. They have their own issues underneath. Socially I struggle but I have a small group of friends that care and most importantly listen to me. Football gives me great joy at times - especially at the moment - and I'm achieving things now that make me think "well done" to myself and learning to like my politeness at all times and other strengths.

Questions · Feb 22, 2017

Seagull58 said:
I wasn't stigmattising it and I'm sorry if it came across that way. I was questioning why choose NSC to share it and ask others if they also have similar issues. It seems a strange place to do so. Why not a forum dedicated to mental health rather than a football forum?

Maybe because we all have one thing in common there is a bond that allows us to discuss other issues. There is no more important issue I can think of offhand than mental illness. It can't but fail to help.

DJ NOBO · Feb 22, 2017

pearl said:
good advice, I would add do not use alcohol to self medicate. It's good to meet up after football for a beer, but sitting at home drinking alone will make your problems worse and you will end up in a cycle of needing a drink to combat the depression alcohol has caused. MH issues and booze is a bad combination

I'm having a trial period of not drinking at all (two months so far), partly as i have a lot on at the minute.
it's worth doing it whether you are prone to depression or not as never having hangovers is a joy.
Now im not on the pull, drinking tends to be a disappointment anyway so i feel im gaining more than im losing

Bob'n'weave · Feb 22, 2017

Bold Seagull said:
There have been 223 posts. You could count on one hand those that were not supportive not just of you, but of the issue in general, and of other posters. Anything that raises awareness is a good thing. There have been some good links and good advice. You may have started the thread, but others have shared their own issues, bought their own experiences into the discussion. It has been a positive thread on the whole, not attention seeking by any means, and I honestly don't think it has been viewed in that way. I'd like to feel the very opposite is true and that it should stay and be bounced whenever anyone else is having a bit of a wobble. You know, you may well have helped a few other people too.

This.

The OP has started a very good thread IMHO. People have opened up to NSC and despite a few piss takers, the responses have been supportive and helpful. Any one of the useful links or advisory/supportive comments could change someones life for the better. You have dropped a pebble in the pond and this thread could be helping people way beyond the populace of NSC. Well f***ing done mate. :thumbsup:

Been through the mill myself and have found some things that have helped me focus in the darkest moments and find the strength to keep going. I could post for hours but will leave ya'll with a couple of pebbles of my own.

Good for bedtime listening -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VIDdu-t8Ls

Practical logic - science stuff/open source learning
http://greatergood.berkeley.edu/news_events/event/the_science_of_happiness#.WK3HjRLygch

Info/resources/support
https://stnicholashospice.org.uk/su...oms/anxiety/?gclid=CIzfj-2apNICFbIW0wodNuYG1Q

BlockDpete · Feb 22, 2017

Sussex Nomad said:
On reflection I should probably not have started this thread. Perhaps this whole thread would be better deleted by the mods.

Don't think that SN, its a great thread to start, and I hope the mods don't delete.

Anyone who thinks that a football forum is not the place to start a thread like this should reflect that probably its generally men that contribute here.

Not trying the bring the thread down, but stats do show that suicide is the biggest killer of men between 35-50. So anything that helps us to discuss mental health issues (even on line) does have a benefit and might even save lives.

I know the Albion are good at promoting health issues, so perhaps this an area they could help to raise awareness.

Another good link for anyone needing support.

https://www.thecalmzone.net/

DJ NOBO · Feb 22, 2017

To those who belittle those with depression.....
don't be fooled into thinking it's weak people who get depressed.
Weak people are masters at seeking help for themselves, boring their colleagues with their woes, making their problems everyone's problems. It makes for effective therapy.
'Strong' people soldier on, trying to sort things out themselves without bothering others. These kind of people are most prone to depression although those closest to them may not notice their decline as they don't let on.

Seagull58 · Feb 22, 2017

Shropshire Seagull said:
Mental Health Issues [MHI] - not sure if I have?

My 21 y/o daughter was diagnosed with Asperger's 15 years ago and has had various treatments / tablets - I can see a lot of her "problems" in myself going back to my childhood [I'm 56 now] but I've never had any sort of diagnosis. I stuggle with relationships [friends] but have been very lucky to have a wife of 30 years who has stuck by me.
I have [what I think is] an eating disorder - I eat when I'm stressed [work stress], I eat when I'm bored - I've got a BMI of 34 and no will-power to do anything about it - is that a form of MHI? I think my only solution is a gastric band but is there some mental treatment that could help me?

I don't want to waste NHS time when they clearly have more critical MHI to deal with - I don't think it's depression - but why do I keep eating?

In the scale of issues shared by others on this thread, eating unnecessarily seems to pale into insignificance - am I one of those [many?] undiagnosed cases?

Is there an option for you to join a gym and go several times a week? I know it's a tough decision but I'm positive it will help you with your weight and with the work related stress. I understand what you say about eating when you're bored. I have a tendency to drift towards the fridge whenever I get bored with TV or the internet.

Bob'n'weave · Feb 22, 2017

Quote Originally Posted by Shropshire Seagull View Post
Mental Health Issues [MHI] - not sure if I have?

My 21 y/o daughter was diagnosed with Asperger's 15 years ago and has had various treatments / tablets - I can see a lot of her "problems" in myself going back to my childhood [I'm 56 now] but I've never had any sort of diagnosis. I stuggle with relationships [friends] but have been very lucky to have a wife of 30 years who has stuck by me.
I have [what I think is] an eating disorder - I eat when I'm stressed [work stress], I eat when I'm bored - I've got a BMI of 34 and no will-power to do anything about it - is that a form of MHI? I think my only solution is a gastric band but is there some mental treatment that could help me?

I don't want to waste NHS time when they clearly have more critical MHI to deal with - I don't think it's depression - but why do I keep eating?

In the scale of issues shared by others on this thread, eating unnecessarily seems to pale into insignificance - am I one of those [many?] undiagnosed cases?

Seagull58 said:
Is there an option for you to join a gym and go several times a week? I know it's a tough decision but I'm positive it will help you with your weight and with the work related stress. I understand what you say about eating when you're bored. I have a tendency to drift towards the fridge whenever I get bored with TV or the internet.

This.

Thought about trying hypnosis?

Saladpack Seagull · Feb 22, 2017

What an amazing thread this is. Considering it is about depression (among many other forms of MH) it is remarkably uplifting! I freely admit to two episodes of depression from which I have recovered and my wife was very ill with anxiety a year ago from which she has now emerged and has just started to scale back the meds. My biggest issue now is keeping at bay horribly depressing and completely overwhelming episodes stemming from the Troubles in N. Ireland (late 70's, early 80's) which can make me an emotional wreck for up to three hours at a time! These times have lessened over the years and I have developed ways of mentally warding them off. The odd thing was that when I was quite recently given morphine by an ambulance crew those feelings were triggered and I kept saying that I could "see him" - "him" being a young soldier whose horrendous injuries from gunfire have never left me. The human mind is indeed a strange yet wonderful thing. I wish Sussex Nomad well and applaud him for starting this thread. Also, thanks to all those caring NSC people whose advice and practical support will be valuable not only to Sussex Nomad, but also to others struggling with MH issues, many of whom may lack the courage to respond to this really positive thread.

Spicy · Feb 22, 2017

Sussex Nomad said:
We're all big men on a Brighton football forum. I want to share my sh!t. I go through hell. I'm sorry if that annoys people.I quoted you Jim but it isn't aimed at you.

Well done for starting this thread and just to say there are women on this site as well and we are far more open to discussing our problems, whether mental health or life in general, rather than all these macho men who live on football sites. Good luck with it and hope you get the responses you want.

Sussex Nomad · Feb 22, 2017

Saladpack Seagull said:
What an amazing thread this is. Considering it is about depression (among many other forms of MH) it is remarkably uplifting! I freely admit to two episodes of depression from which I have recovered and my wife was very ill with anxiety a year ago from which she has now emerged and has just started to scale back the meds. My biggest issue now is keeping at bay horribly depressing and completely overwhelming episodes stemming from the Troubles in N. Ireland (late 70's, early 80's) which can make me an emotional wreck for up to three hours at a time! These times have lessened over the years and I have developed ways of mentally warding them off. The odd thing was that when I was quite recently given morphine by an ambulance crew those feelings were triggered and I kept saying that I could "see him" - "him" being a young soldier whose horrendous injuries from gunfire have never left me. The human mind is indeed a strange yet wonderful thing. I wish Sussex Nomad well and applaud him for starting this thread. Also, thanks to all those caring NSC people whose advice and practical support will be valuable not only to Sussex Nomad, but also to others struggling with MH issues, many of whom may lack the courage to respond to this really positive thread.

I lived in NI for a year in the 80s, as a civvy, I can't comprehend what you say but I do understand.

Seagull · Feb 22, 2017

Trying to respond to a few things at once … I confess to being a BACP registered therapist http://www.bacp.co.uk/ so if you want an off or on the record answer please PM or quote me and I’ll try to respond when not at work!

Shropshire Seagull said:
I have [what I think is] an eating disorder - I eat when I'm stressed [work stress], I eat when I'm bored - I've got a BMI of 34 and no will-power to do anything about it - is that a form of MHI? I think my only solution is a gastric band but is there some mental treatment that could help me? I don't want to waste NHS time when they clearly have more critical MHI to deal with - I don't think it's depression - but why do I keep eating

People use food for all sorts of psychological reasons as well as just for nourishment. I think I’d do some research first. Here are some resources to kick off with:
NHS guidance: http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/eating-disorders/pages/introduction.aspx
Mind: http://www.mind.org.uk/information-...health-problems/eating-problems/#.WK3k1fIQTIU
Eating Problems – a specialist I know of: http://www.eatingproblems.org/index.html

black & white seagull said:
This is an excellent starting point for those who feel they might benefit from speaking to a therapist. …https://welldoing.org

Yes this site seems good. Best way is probably to get a recommendation from someone you know, a GP or someone in the field. Other sites where therapists advertise include http://www.itsgoodtotalk.org.uk/ and http://www.counselling-directory.org.uk/
Just googling in your area will also produce results. Suggest you make a shortlist of 3 possible people that appeal to you and call them up. You’ll probably get a sense of which person might work best for you.

Saladpack Seagull said:
My biggest issue now is keeping at bay horribly depressing and completely overwhelming episodes stemming from the Troubles in N. Ireland (late 70's, early 80's) which can make me an emotional wreck for up to three hours at a time!

Have you talked the GP through this? Sounds like you are having a post traumatic stress type response to these past events. Suggest you get a full PTSD assessment – ask GP. There are ways of treating this out there. A common one is EMDR (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_movement_desensitization_and_reprocessing) although I do not have personal experience of that.

Sussex Nomad said:
I am heading towards breakdown and it ain't nice.

Well done for starting the thread [MENTION=19110]Sussex[/MENTION]Nomad. I think you saw my earlier post so do check in with someone if you need to. If not friends and family, then GP, Samaritans if in crisis, therapy does help – see above, A&E in emergency. NSC may soon need to be added to this list of helping resources! Great work everyone.

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