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[Politics] Amber Rudd used the word “coloured”
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Garage_Doors
Originally the Swankers
What word or description should we using so not to cause offence?.
Its very confusing for us older people in constant fear that we may offend someone because we are not keeping up with current trends.
Well, 'black' is default I suppose. I quite like 'of part or full African ethnic origin' - made a few black people laugh with that one. Personally I am not bothered, nor would I be bothered to be called out, not that I would ever us 'coloured' as it is no longer 1974. Rudd is a type. She probably thinks 'coloured' is OK. As did the Cumberbach a few months ago. If I were black and she said it to my face, I may say 'I prefer black' or I may let it pass. There may be good reason to 'burn' Rudd but not this. But I'm happy to be corrected by any black prson who is genuinely cross about this (Abbott is to smug to be cross).
On a related note, cultural appropriation. White people doing Reggae? The Police? Fine. White people singing with a Jamaican accent? Erm....you decide
Note, 10cc 'reggie holiday' or somesuch was cringeworty shite rather than cultural appropriation....
lawros left foot
Glory hunting since 1969
I think black is okay, as is gay for homosexual people.
The point is that ‘ white has historically never been used as a general term of abuse, where as coloured, ******, paki, spastic,queer, have all been used as abusive terms for various groups. To use any of these , and other words that denigrate a specific group is considered now to be worthy of censure.
It may evolve that’gammon’ will be deemed to be a racist term of abuse in the future, and then everybody will have something to get irate about.
Meade's Ball
Well-known member
It seems that most of us are in agreement that Rudd is in her 90s and can be forgiven, the old rascal, for terminology that none of us young 40 somethings would use nowadays.
I think Diane Abbott's reaction is revealing.
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
Very well said.
lawros left foot
Glory hunting since 1969
Yeah, she should know her place.
Apparently one is acceptable the the other isn't but I agree there is no difference.
Yes, because the race of someone we're addressing is not usually the important bit. In your example we'd say 'No, not the woman with the jacket, the woman with the glasses next to her', rather than say what race they are. That's not relevant to Amber's point, as she was intending to stand up for woman from ethnic minorities. Her mistake was to say coloured woman, instead of black woman, or woman of colour.
I wouldn't say 'coloured woman', because I've grown up in a society that deems that term to be offensive, but there are other cultures where it's not offensive. I don't know if Amber has mixed with other cultures and accidentally assumed that the term is considered acceptable here, or what.
Maybe Amber shouldn't be used - perhaps it's more politically correct to use Yellow, Green or Red
lawros left foot
Glory hunting since 1969
Agreed. I never liked the word "coloured" myself, always preferred "black", but what a fuss about nothing.
Yep. Like what I said. 100% right.
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
I think you MIGHT be an idiot
What about the one white woman in an audience full of black people? Would you address her as "the white woman", or would you go all PC and address her as "the woman in the red dress with the glasses"? Seems to me that referring to her as the white woman would be the quickest and easiest way of identifying her.
Top research. If only Rudd knew. She knows little beyond dodgy financial arrangments though. And being tory. Which is how she was elected. Not racist herself. Just partially enknowledged. Or 'ignorant' as it is sometimes known.
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Rudd has actually apologised to Abbott. If Abbott has an ounce of class she will accept it. Let's see.
GT49er
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Not 'white' maybe, but 'whitey' certainly has. As has 'honky'; no prosecutions or outrage about that though.
Funny that.