pearl
Well-known member
I don't think they are being aggressive enough!
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Southern Rail STRIKE details
- Thread starter Ernest
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I don't think they are being aggressive enough!
Gullflyinghigh
Registered User
- Apr 23, 2012
- 4,279
In what manner would he have to answer to it?
Presumably something along the lines of 'it was clearly tongue in cheek, don't be so bloody ridiculous'?
Personally, of the two forces at play I'm behind the union (just), but some of the preachy posts on here really make me question that.
Wait, so striking staff are being paid by the union when they are on strike ?
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
Isn't that usually the case with strikes ?
I'm not sure they necessarily get full pay.
Not sure. Interesting as I did have a guard having a discussion with a passenger saying do you think I'd be giving up my wages if we didn't feel strongly about this!
They will be losing out big time...The Union will have fewer funds and they are alienating their customers.
Deadly Danson
Well-known member
GTR deliberately preventing trains stopping at specific stations to force though Driver Only Operation
RAIL UNION RMT has been alerted to the fact that GTR Southern is deliberately preventing trains from stopping at specific stations to force though Driver Only Operation.
The union says that the revelations expose the fact that the company is hell-bent on DOO, despite their public bluster, and that they are determined to have 1600 trains a day running without a Guard by January regardless of the impact on access and safety.
The union was contacted by disappointed passengers to say that those expecting to travel to Redhill, on last Saturday night’s (8 October) Victoria to Portsmouth and Southampton services, were told to leave the train as it would not be stopping at their destination. The reason given was that no platform staff were available to dispatch the train.
Passengers were left bemused and angry as there were Guards travelling on those trains who dispatch the trains at other stations on the same route.
The train dispatch at Redhill would have previously been performed by the Guard but they had been recently stripped of these duties by GTR.
Mick Cash, RMT General Secretary, said:
“GTR has yet again shown blatant disregard for the travelling public in its drive to get rid of the Guard and continues to create misery for anyone unfortunate enough to have to use its trains.
“What is even more shocking in this instance is that there physically were Guards working on those trains but they had been ordered by GTR bosses to not get involved in any train dispatch duties in the Redhill area.
“This whole incident exposes why Southern have refused every reasonable attempt by the union to resolve this dispute. They are not interested and despite all their bluster it shows that their core objective is wholesale Driver Only Operation with 1600 trains a day running without a Guard by the new year."
RAIL UNION RMT has been alerted to the fact that GTR Southern is deliberately preventing trains from stopping at specific stations to force though Driver Only Operation.
The union says that the revelations expose the fact that the company is hell-bent on DOO, despite their public bluster, and that they are determined to have 1600 trains a day running without a Guard by January regardless of the impact on access and safety.
The union was contacted by disappointed passengers to say that those expecting to travel to Redhill, on last Saturday night’s (8 October) Victoria to Portsmouth and Southampton services, were told to leave the train as it would not be stopping at their destination. The reason given was that no platform staff were available to dispatch the train.
Passengers were left bemused and angry as there were Guards travelling on those trains who dispatch the trains at other stations on the same route.
The train dispatch at Redhill would have previously been performed by the Guard but they had been recently stripped of these duties by GTR.
Mick Cash, RMT General Secretary, said:
“GTR has yet again shown blatant disregard for the travelling public in its drive to get rid of the Guard and continues to create misery for anyone unfortunate enough to have to use its trains.
“What is even more shocking in this instance is that there physically were Guards working on those trains but they had been ordered by GTR bosses to not get involved in any train dispatch duties in the Redhill area.
“This whole incident exposes why Southern have refused every reasonable attempt by the union to resolve this dispute. They are not interested and despite all their bluster it shows that their core objective is wholesale Driver Only Operation with 1600 trains a day running without a Guard by the new year."
pearl
Well-known member
so what are the RMT going to do about it? the strikes are about as affective as saying another mass
Deadly Danson
Well-known member
Who knows. No one has yet really been able to come up with any other credible alternative effective way of protesting but the strikes are having more of an effect than you may think. It may well be that we hear some news from Aslef soon but they are treading very very carefully.
Beach Hut
Brighton Bhuna Boy
Would you have been happy with your Union Leader if he pissed up £2,000 payment you could have had
Arthur
Well-known member
Drivers going on strike??
pearl
Well-known member
or refusing to sign new contracts?
Hastings gull
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- Nov 23, 2013
- 4,635
For goodness sake , grow up. You are well aware that no real threat is intended or remotely imminent. For someone who can be so abusive and aggressive, you are very touchy, when it suits.
Deadly Danson
Well-known member
Not one single guard I have spoken to has any issue with it. It's a bribe and the dispute isn't about money.
I don't need to...What I do need to do is get a train...You have answered the problem yourself...It isn't the 19th century anymore..Get back to work or leave...Simples!
pearl
Well-known member
the cancellations are nothing to do with the strikes