Sussex Nomad
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It's a real shame that people like him are gifted a talent at birth and waste it. I know most footballers aren't the most intelligent type on this planet but what a waste to give him something we can only dream of.
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[Football] Gus Poyet to Swansea City is the word, how good is he?
- Thread starter BrianSwan
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It's a real shame that people like him are gifted a talent at birth and waste it. I know most footballers aren't the most intelligent type on this planet but what a waste to give him something we can only dream of.
Southwest Seagull
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- Jul 3, 2013
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At the end of the day, the guy is a bit of a s**t but he's one of our greatest managers ever (best in my lifetime imo). His career has been a bit weird post-Sunderland but I don't doubt he'd be a superb appointment for a Championship club, money or not.
You know your club is ****ed when you read this and start thinking instead of laughing..
227 BHA
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Return of the Rev
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Well some of you did, I had his card marked after two months and got slated for it
Also
227 BHA
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The issues are part of the flawed package. Unless he grows up, he’ll always be a job hopper.
Megazone
On his last warning
Poyet started off well for us. His style is very effective against slower paced teams like the ones we destroyed in the 3rd tier. Under Poyet in league one, we dominated everyone with non-stop possession. We were able to make the opposition constantly chase a ball they never had a chance of catching. We really did dominate. But we did have Glenn Murray, Chris Wood and Ashley Barnes upfront in the 3rd tier, so it wasn't as if Poyet performed miracles with a bunch of nobodies. In total 7 of that team ended up having stints playing in the Prem for other teams. We also had Dunk just coming through. Times were good for us. With hindsight, you could argue Poyet got lucky having a team of players playing way below their deserved standard.
The Championship proved different. Poyet's massive ego got rid of Murray and replaced him with Ronan Keating. We were a different team without Murray. We looked clueless upfront whilst our best striker (Ashley Barnes) took all the blame. The big problem was Poyet's style against stronger, faster teams comes with a lot of risks, and thats where he couldn't take us up a level once we were in the 2nd tier. Teams would close our defence down quickly looking for the early goal knowing if they go one goal up, they're most probably going to win. This was because our defence would pass back and forth to each other, sharing around 42,000 passes a half, even when we were in desperate need of getting a goal.
Poyet's style became too predictable and not very successful whenever the chips were down.
Poyet did get us to the Championship Playoffs when we faced Palace, but that game really epitomised everything wrong about Poyet's managerial ability. We were losing, our whole season was resting on this game and yet the team just passed it around, playing no differently to how you would when you're winning a game in just keeping hold of the ball until the final whistle came. It was the most frustrating performance I've ever witnessed watching The albion. Poyet's predictable, backwards passing style was the big loss in that game. It was utterly shite
So after that dreadful, humiliating performance, Poyet then goes onto the pitch to to tell the camera that this is as good as it gets. What's worse is this wasn't anything unusual for us albion fans. He'd already gone pretty much awol earlier that season when it looked like he'd joined Reading just as we were nearing the final hurdle whilst looking strong in a playoff position. Then came the threats of leaving for a bigger club, bragging how he can just go and play golf instead of caring about certain albion matters, and then finally the TV sulk he pulled off straight after the Palace playoff loss.
Eventually/Obviously he gets sacked. The next we see of Poyet is him on a football show where they bring up the topic of his sacking. No surprise, Poyet, being the massive belled he is, pretends to look shocked, claiming it was the first he'd heard of it? What a knob.
So not only can Poyet's style be very dull and easy to suss out for fast paced opposition, he's also every chairmans nightmare.
It most probably won't go well.
The Championship proved different. Poyet's massive ego got rid of Murray and replaced him with Ronan Keating. We were a different team without Murray. We looked clueless upfront whilst our best striker (Ashley Barnes) took all the blame. The big problem was Poyet's style against stronger, faster teams comes with a lot of risks, and thats where he couldn't take us up a level once we were in the 2nd tier. Teams would close our defence down quickly looking for the early goal knowing if they go one goal up, they're most probably going to win. This was because our defence would pass back and forth to each other, sharing around 42,000 passes a half, even when we were in desperate need of getting a goal.
Poyet's style became too predictable and not very successful whenever the chips were down.
Poyet did get us to the Championship Playoffs when we faced Palace, but that game really epitomised everything wrong about Poyet's managerial ability. We were losing, our whole season was resting on this game and yet the team just passed it around, playing no differently to how you would when you're winning a game in just keeping hold of the ball until the final whistle came. It was the most frustrating performance I've ever witnessed watching The albion. Poyet's predictable, backwards passing style was the big loss in that game. It was utterly shite
So after that dreadful, humiliating performance, Poyet then goes onto the pitch to to tell the camera that this is as good as it gets. What's worse is this wasn't anything unusual for us albion fans. He'd already gone pretty much awol earlier that season when it looked like he'd joined Reading just as we were nearing the final hurdle whilst looking strong in a playoff position. Then came the threats of leaving for a bigger club, bragging how he can just go and play golf instead of caring about certain albion matters, and then finally the TV sulk he pulled off straight after the Palace playoff loss.
Eventually/Obviously he gets sacked. The next we see of Poyet is him on a football show where they bring up the topic of his sacking. No surprise, Poyet, being the massive belled he is, pretends to look shocked, claiming it was the first he'd heard of it? What a knob.
So not only can Poyet's style be very dull and easy to suss out for fast paced opposition, he's also every chairmans nightmare.
It most probably won't go well.
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Great post. Sums it up perfectly for me.
Kalimantan Gull
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He was brilliant. You'll love him
OzMike
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Offer a two year deal with the possibility of a third depending on results and league position.
I would then do a year by year contract to keep him on his toes.
I would then do a year by year contract to keep him on his toes.
Tokyohands
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Hmmmm how many jobs has he had since us?
*I just checked and it's 5. If he does manage Swansea one thing is for sure, it won't last long.
*I just checked and it's 5. If he does manage Swansea one thing is for sure, it won't last long.
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Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
- 70,161
In seriousness he could be great for you. As others have said the football in the League One promotion season was quite simply THE best football I have ever seen from a Brighton side, and of course we didn't do too badly in the Championship with him either.
Then, as it so often does in football, (us with CH being a great example), it all went to pot. If he's learnt some lessons in the jobs he's had since us he could still do a good job for you. Apart from that my only other concern would be whether he has evolved. He was definitely ahead of his time tactics-wise when he was with us (and he was streets ahead of some of the long-ball, 4-4-2 merchants in League One), but the game has moved on since then. I haven't followed his career closely enough to know whether he's learnt some new tricks.
TWOCHOICEStom
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Rumours of him going to Killmarnock!
https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/chelsea-legend-gus-poyet-hunt-16330167
Him and Gary Dicker reunited!
https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/chelsea-legend-gus-poyet-hunt-16330167
Him and Gary Dicker reunited!
You missed out West Ham away. Got to be the worst team selection followed by execution of a managers tactics I've ever witnessed.
Seasider78
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- Nov 14, 2004
- 5,937
League one he was outstanding in the championship on reflection he was decent but (Sami aside) we have seen other managers come in and do a comparable (Garcia) and superior (Hughton) role.
Certainly fits with Swansea’s ethos of passing football but his upward management was a nightmare and as other have said you always feel it’s more about how he can better himself than the club or team.
I get the impression Swansea want something sustainable built from the ground up and some longevity which would make Gus unsuitable I feel.
That and the trajectory of his managerial career since he left versus that of the club suggests it was his own ceiling he had hit in 2013
Certainly fits with Swansea’s ethos of passing football but his upward management was a nightmare and as other have said you always feel it’s more about how he can better himself than the club or team.
I get the impression Swansea want something sustainable built from the ground up and some longevity which would make Gus unsuitable I feel.
That and the trajectory of his managerial career since he left versus that of the club suggests it was his own ceiling he had hit in 2013