[Politics] Brexit

WATFORD zero · Mar 15, 2019

Dorset Seagull said:
I’m fairly confident the EU will sign it off so they can give TM a fighting chance to get the deal through so they can get their grubby hands on the £39bn

I think you will find that Suella Braverman committed to the £39Bn some months back, regardless of what happens in any negotiations.

Or maybe, if we went 'no deal' it would be an interesting start to our negotiations with USA, Russia, Brazil, etc etc (oh - and the largest trading bloc in the world the EU) by refusing to pay our outstanding trade bills ?

Do you listen to anything that's been going on for the last 3 years :facepalm:

WATFORD zero · Mar 15, 2019

JC Footy Genius said:
That's yet again just a woeful, rather childish, simplistic, misrepresentation oft repeated by hardcore remainers/the Guardian set. The real reasons why Brexiteers didn't end up in the top job or resigned are far more nuanced and about political realities than ' they ran away' .... play ground stuff.

They ran away from their responsibilities trying to blame everyone else, so it really shouldn't come as a surprise us when their supporters follow their lead and do the exact same thing :facepalm:

WATFORD zero · Mar 15, 2019

I need to go to bed for an early flight tomorrow.

Who knows, maybe by the time I next sign on, maybe someone who voted for the cluster***k that we now have may have stood up, and actually taken responsibility for what they have done.

Or maybe not :bigwave:

Lincoln Imp · Mar 15, 2019

bashlsdir said:
How does this add any value to the conversation here, apart from winding people up.

If you're saying, and you are, that Leave.EU's revolting campaign messages were designed to wind people up then I'm with you all the way. They seem to have been effective at doing just that and and the result is that we are now where we are.

Murray 17 · Mar 15, 2019

Pavilionaire said:
How can a second referendum make things any worse than they are now? Nothing will change in the minds of those that want to Leave now - with or without a Deal, and nothing will change in the minds of those that want remain and believe in the European Project.

Furthermore, there are 13 million people that didn't vote that might have come to a decision now that the facts are clearer. And what about the 2.4 million young voters that have turned 18 since the referendum back in 2016 - shouldn't they get a say on the deal reached in Parliament?

You could say this about any election or referendum.

After a year or two of any government, it is doubtful whether they have implemented what they said they would do. You would end up having elections every couple of years.

People only want a second referendum to overturn the original vote. If you voted Remain, you have nothing to lose.

And if the vote was to leave a second time, those people who voted remain would still not like the result and try to stop Brexit.

Dorset Seagull · Mar 15, 2019

WATFORD zero said:
I think you will find that Suella Braverman committed to the £39Bn some months back, regardless of what happens in any negotiations.

Or maybe, if we went 'no deal' it would be an interesting start to our negotiations with USA, Russia, Brazil, etc etc (oh - and the largest trading bloc in the world the EU) by refusing to pay our outstanding trade bills ?

Do you listen to anything that's been going on for the last 3 years

I wish I had the time to listen to as much as you do. That’s why I come on here to be educated

Deleted member 22389 · Mar 16, 2019

Lincoln Imp said:
If you're saying, and you are, that Leave.EU's revolting campaign messages were designed to wind people up then I'm with you all the way. They seem to have been effective at doing just that and and the result is that we are now where we are.

It's done, finished, time to move on don't you think? we get it. Most of the leavers departed this thread months ago, it's pointless.

WATFORD zero · Mar 16, 2019

Dorset Seagull said:
I wish I had the time to listen to as much as you do. That’s why I come on here to be educated

Pleasure to have been of service :thumbsup:

clapham_gull · Mar 16, 2019

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2019/mar/16/visa-extension-overseas-students-uk-brexit

More international students post Brexit. :lolol:

Pavilionaire · Mar 16, 2019

Murray 17 said:
You could say this about any election or referendum.

After a year or two of any government, it is doubtful whether they have implemented what they said they would do. You would end up having elections every couple of years.

People only want a second referendum to overturn the original vote. If you voted Remain, you have nothing to lose.

And if the vote was to leave a second time, those people who voted remain would still not like the result and try to stop Brexit.

I think in this case there's more to it. Nobody knew what Leave would actually look like back in 2016, or who would be leading it, or how it would be implemented. And without a manifesto to be accountable for there were lots of huge lies in the Referendum Campaign.

And if the country voted Leave a second time I really don't think there would be a call for a third vote.

Kinky Gerbil · Mar 16, 2019

Big numbers on the March for Brexit so far

Stat Brother · Mar 16, 2019

Kinky Gerbils said:
Big numbers on the March for Brexit so far

Yep the Gammonball Run has started:-

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Springal · Mar 16, 2019

Kinky Gerbils said:
Big numbers on the March for Brexit so far

Farage has surrendered

Thunder Bolt · Mar 16, 2019

Kinky Gerbils said:
Big numbers on the March for Brexit so far

There are more journalists than marchers. Anyone want to pay Farage £50 to join in, despite him not actually doing it himself?

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ManOfSussex · Mar 16, 2019

Doesn't appear to be much media coverage for some reason, but thank goodness the Daily Express is and telling it like it is:

Theresa May warned 'Brexit FIGHTBACK' is on as protesters launch 270-mile march to London

BREXITEERS came together on Saturday to begin the "fightback" for Brexit as angered Britons took to the streets to march from Sunderland to London to voice their anger over plans to delay the UK's exit from the European Union.

Around 100 people assembled in Sunderland

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1...nderland-Farage-UK-EU-withdrawal-delay-latest

Every game in the Bostick League South East will get a bigger turnout than that this afternoon. :lolol:

Thunder Bolt · Mar 16, 2019

Led by Donkeys playing a blinder.

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Kinky Gerbil · Mar 16, 2019

Stat Brother said:
Yep the Gammonball Run has started:-

[tweet]1106852590640418816[/tweet]

Gammonball run haha

Springal · Mar 16, 2019

Judging by the gammonball run not sure we need to be to concerned over any potential civil war

Kinky Gerbil · Mar 16, 2019

Fair play if numbers pick up, but this March is doing more harm than good?

JC Footy Genius · Mar 16, 2019

WATFORD zero said:
They ran away from their responsibilities trying to blame everyone else, so it really shouldn't come as a surprise us when their supporters follow their lead and do the exact same thing

And repeat ... just a woeful, rather childish, simplistic, misrepresentation oft repeated by hardcore remainers/the Guardian set. The real reasons why Brexiteers didn't end up in the top job or resigned are far more nuanced and about political realities than ' they ran away' .... playground stuff.

It was ever thus …

Russian conspiracy

BBC conspiracy

Gammon

A recession is coming we are doomed

Frauderendum

It was only advisory

Cliff edge

All racists voted leave

There are only three options (or two)

Old peoples votes are less valid

Always been the same choices (which change)

Right-wing press conspiracy

Nothing to do with Remainers in Parliament intent on stopping Brexit

No deal will never happen

No deal will happen … PANIC!

This would always have happened

No one knows what is happening, your fault leavers

Leavers are dying ... hurray!

Our children's futures are over

You morons were duped and shouldn't be allowed to vote …. now vote again

Voting leave won't reduce EU immigration

The big drop in EU immigration would have happened anyway

Financial conspiracy of Rich Brexiteers (and Philip Hammond!)

Referendums are terrible

We want another referendum

Vote leave didn't campaign for a Soft Brexit but it's still leaving, so there.

Vote leave didn't campaign for a no deal so we can't do it

80 ERG MP's are stopping Brexit happening (230 MP's voted against May's deal)

You voted to rip up the good Friday agreement

WTO will make us have a hard border

The government is far right, May's an immigrant hating fascist

Honda 'Brexit' Job losses

Honda management fibbing

Job losses big news

Job gains irrelevant

Record employment irrelevant

All your fault .. ner ner ner ner ner,nothing to do with our incompetent political class

And on and on and on ....

At least :shit:

have been knocked out of the cup though! :clap:

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