[News] Liam neeson

Billy the Fish · Feb 8, 2019

Congratulations [MENTION=23343]Baldseagull[/MENTION], you've been Neeson'd!

Think [MENTION=1313]BadFish[/MENTION] sums it up in post #214. Don't tell the truth, especially on social media. At all times present yourself as a beacon of virtue or you'll be set on by others who claim to have lived a life with only pure thoughts.

The Clamp · Feb 8, 2019

BadFish said:
It may be true that your experiences and perspectives have not proven it wrong, but it is.

So yes what you describe is a good example of what you are discussing, even if a little tongue in cheek.

Actually, I think what you are describing here are backpackers.

You are of course, correct.

LlcoolJ · Feb 8, 2019

Billy the Fish said:
Congratulations [MENTION=23343]Baldseagull[/MENTION], you've been Neeson'd!

Think [MENTION=1313]BadFish[/MENTION] sums it up in post #214. Don't tell the truth, especially on social media. At all times present yourself as a beacon of virtue or you'll be set on by others who claim to have lived a life with only pure thoughts.

Unless you're Donald Trump.

The Clamp · Feb 8, 2019

I think ultimately it’s true that we all do harbour some prejudices and I also think Liam Neeson was acting on instinct at the time. Forgivable. And acting like a bit of a knob for spilling this to a journalist. Regrettable .

He’s not a racist and should be allowed to go about his business.

As long as his business is no longer coshing “Black ********”.

Leave that to the Metropolitan Police.

Wilko · Feb 8, 2019

Hamilton said:
You’re right to get back to facts.

But working with the figures you provide, why do you think 73% of all knife crime is committed by black of ethic minority males?

Equally, why do we think that 67% of politicians are male? Is it because they are more likely to be better at politics than women?

Let’s talk about the issues that sit behind the facts and then we can decide if engrained racism or sexism are the true barriers to progress. Then we can consciously do something about it.

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This. the offences are not caused due to differing melanin levels, there is always a reason behind the figures. If a group is marginalised by a society and make up the vast majority of the poorest sections of society then they are more likely to have high crime rates.The colour of skin is largely irrelevant.

dingodan · Feb 8, 2019

hans kraay fan club said:
Tell us how he was looking to select those ‘innocent people’, and then explain for us how it wasn’t ‘about race’.

It wasn't about their race though was it. It was about their being associated (yes, by race) with someone he was angry at. He didn't go out looking for a black man to attack because he hates black people for being black. He went out looking for a black man to attack because he hates a rapist, who was black, and then he makes others like the rapist guilty by association. Obviously it was not right, but it also was not about race.

Imagine your mate got beaten up by a fan of (pick your football club). You might immediately have ill feelings towards fans of that football club, because of what one of them did, not out of any existing prejudice you harbour towards those fans. You would then probably check yourself, and remember that the person who beat up your mate is responsible, not everyone you can associate with them. But that initial feeling would still likely naturally have been there.

PILTDOWN MAN · Feb 8, 2019

The Clamp said:
I think ultimately it’s true that we all do harbour some prejudices and I also think Liam Neeson was acting on instinct at the time. Forgivable. And acting like a bit of a knob for spilling this to a journalist. Regrettable .

He’s not a racist and should be allowed to go about his business.

As long as his business is no longer coshing “Black ********”.

Leave that to the Metropolitan Police.

Tarring a lot of good people with a few bad ones there

hans kraay fan club · Feb 8, 2019

dingodan said:
It wasn't about their race though was it.

Okay. It wasn't about race.

dingodan said:
It was about their being associated (yes, by race) with someone he was angry at.

Oh. So it was?

dingodan said:
He didn't go out looking for a black man to attack because he hates black people for being black.

That's good.

dingodan said:
He went out looking for a black man to attack because he hates a rapist, who was black, and then he makes others like the rapist guilty by association.

Oh.

dingodan · Feb 8, 2019

hans kraay fan club said:
Okay. It wasn't about race.

Oh. So it was?

That's good.

Oh.

So, in your view, Liam Neeson is a racist?

Is that your conclusion from all this?

Klaas · Feb 8, 2019

dingodan said:
So, in your view, Liam Neeson is a racist?

Is that your conclusion from all this?

Oh do shut up. Your comment about it not being about race is ridiculous.

dingodan · Feb 8, 2019

Klaas said:
Oh do shut up. Your comment about it not being about race is ridiculous.

If you believe it was about race, the you would have to believe that he's a racist then?

What about a woman who gets raped, and feels anger towards men and takes her revenge out on other men.

Would you say she was being sexist?

Stuff like this doesn't fit into the simple catergories of arbitrary prejudice, much as some people would apparently like it to.

dingodan · Feb 8, 2019

I agree with Sam Harris here.

He also makes a good point about how if it were a rape by a cop, and Neeson went out looking for a cop to kill, it would be the same story. You can't say Neeson is racist because the rapist was black, but he wouldn't be racist if the rapist was a cop and he did the very same thing.

The Clamp · Feb 8, 2019

PILTDOWN MAN said:
Tarring a lot of good people with a few bad ones there

It’s called a sense of humour. You should get one. They’re nice.

The Clamp · Feb 8, 2019

dingodan said:
I agree with Sam Harris here.

He also makes a good point about how if it were a rape by a cop, and Neeson went out looking for a cop to kill, it would be the same story. You can't say Neeson is racist because the rapist was black, but he wouldn't be racist if the rapist was a cop and he did the very same thing.

Hmm, I don’t t think the use of the words “black *******” do the “it wasn’t racist” argument any good.

PILTDOWN MAN · Feb 8, 2019

The Clamp said:
It’s called a sense of humour. You should get one. They’re nice.

I have a good sense of humour my dear chap, don’t need you to tell me thanks.

I was commenting because to accuse all due to one person’s actions is what this is about.

The Clamp · Feb 8, 2019

PILTDOWN MAN said:
I have a good sense of humour my dear chap, don’t need you to tell me thanks.

I was commenting because to accuse all due to one person’s actions is what this is about.

I wrote the line fully aware of the irony. It’s where the humour lay.

I work with the police every day in my job and I have nothing but respect for the vast, vast majority of them. It would count as “bantz” (cringe) in my line of work. Just a laugh and is taken as such by the police and indeed other services we work alongside.

I’m sorry you took it all so seriously. There nothing I can do for you though I’m afraid.

PILTDOWN MAN · Feb 8, 2019

The Clamp said:
I wrote the line fully aware of the irony. It’s where the humour lay. I’m sorry you took it all so seriously. There nothing I can do for you though I’m afraid.

You’re right there’s absolutely nothing you can do for me.

The Clamp · Feb 8, 2019

PILTDOWN MAN said:
You’re right there’s absolutely nothing you can do for me.

Listen, old boy, as I edited above. In my job I work with the police daily. I have nothing but respect for the vast, vast majority of them and the other services we work with.
In my line of work it would be called “bants” (cringe) and would be taken in good humour by the police and I would get the same back.
It’s really not a big deal.
I can se you’re struggling with the concept so I’ll leave it be.
TBTC

PILTDOWN MAN · Feb 8, 2019

The Clamp said:
Listen, old boy, as I edited above. In my job I work with the police daily. I have nothing but respect for the vast, vast majority of them and the other services we work with.
In my line of work it would be called “bants” (cringe) and would be taken in good humour by the police and I would get the same back.
It’s really not a big deal.
I can se you’re struggling with the concept so I’ll leave it be.
TBTC

Please don’t patronise it’s a horrible trait.

The Clamp · Feb 8, 2019

PILTDOWN MAN said:
Please don’t patronise it’s a horrible trait.[/QUO

Okay. Have a fun packed weekend
TBTC

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