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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
Helpful Moderator
Mar 16, 2005
61,286
Chandlers Ford
The reason is he doesn't know what to say, which in turn says it all.

That isn't the reason at all. He knows what he wants / what he'd like to say, but he also knows that it is at odds with what his party membership agreed, what the majority of his MPs want, and what the majority of his potential voters want.
 




ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
14,745
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
The EU seem to be getting completely and utterly fed up with it.

I wouldn’t be shocked if they told us to feck off.

We can't agree amongst ourselves what length and the reason for an A50 extension. Whatever May tries to tell them means nothing as she has no credibility. They know whatever they offer us has no certainty of being agreed by us.

You can't blame them if they do - we're an international basket case.
 


Stat Brother

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
73,664
West west west Sussex
Just in case this didn't get a mention, from yesterdays GammonBallRun

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Oh and this must have got a run out, but I don't care:-

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nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,572
Gods country fortnightly
We can't agree amongst ourselves what length and the reason for an A50 extension. Whatever May tries to tell them means nothing as she has no credibility. They know whatever they offer us has no certainty of being agreed by us.

You can't blame them if they do - we're an international basket case.

I remember former Australian PM once saying "the country is in danger of becoming a banana republic". Seems that is where we are now....
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
59,496
The Fatherland
The EU seem to be getting completely and utterly fed up with it.

I wouldn’t be shocked if they told us to feck off.

It’s a joke. As has been said, the U.K. can’t even decide upon the length of the delay. It’s no wonder they can’t they decide on anything more substantial. And as the EU have said, how can they negotiate with May when she has no power or authority.
 




CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
44,772
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a73ec80a-4a62-11e9-b472-f58a50a13bbb

The reason that hard Leavers object to the backstop, they say, is because it traps us during the next stage of negotiation. But it isn’t the backstop that traps us. It is the need to find a solution to the border with Ireland. And that isn’t going away, because there isn’t a solution to the border with Ireland. Not one that avoids significant regulatory and tariff alignment or a border in the Irish Sea.

Save, of course, for a technological solution. But if we can find one of those, which we haven’t yet and won’t for some time, the backstop won’t be needed anyway. So the hard Leavers aren’t struggling against the backstop, they are struggling against reality.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
59,496
The Fatherland
I have to say, May is physicallly looking a bit of a mess. Is she well?
 






Leas

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Dec 3, 2011
115
you may want to think again ?

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nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,572
Gods country fortnightly
Everyone knows deep down that the solution is a customs border in the Irish Sea.

Sadly, May is kept in power by the DUP.

Think the reality is the hardline Brexiteers are quite comfortable to fracture the UK across the Irish sea and Hadrians wall come to that. They don't care, its a cult...

So, in a short space of time we'll have gone from British-European to Little-English.

I can see a compelling title for a new book

From Brexit to Engshit
 






Blackadder

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 6, 2003
16,077
Haywards Heath
If Corbyn can't make a proper impact in Parliament today I think it's the end of the road for him. Labour need to be strong in opposition once the ERG have their PM in place in the summer.

Agree. He’s utterly pathetic as a party leader.

He's actually worse than 'pathetic'.

'Pathetic' suggests a zero sum effect - that his leadership adds nothing to the party, or the party's electoral hopes.

Corbyn at this stage is far, far worse for the party's numbers, than zero.

People who would surely, surely have walked away from the uncaring, unholy mess that is the Tory party by now, will continue to grudgingly pop their cross in the box for any 'pig with a blue rosette', for as long as the alternative is JC.

I don't think I have ever despised both leaders in parliament as much as May and Corbyn.

May for this total cock-up, From the ill advised election, resulting in depending on the DUP (who are so negative they can't even conduct govt in their own country with Sinn Fein) and caring more about the right wing of her party than the country.

Corbyn for his total ineptitude from the start of the Brexit campaign. He is just concerned about his communist ideals in his little world

Here's a clue May and Corbyn. The majority of the voters in the UK are not right/left wing extremists. They are "normal" moderate people.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
59,496
The Fatherland
Here's a clue May and Corbyn. The majority of the voters in the UK are not right/left wing extremists. They are "normal" moderate people.

Vote Chuka?
 




Blackadder

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 6, 2003
16,077
Haywards Heath
maybe this may change some minds ?

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Can you give us some more information on Janice Atkinson please and why we should believe her?
 


A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
17,754
Deepest, darkest Sussex
"So why are Brexiters so terrified of the prospect of a second referendum?"

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Mellor 3 Ward 4

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2004
9,799
saaf of the water
If Corbyn can't make a proper impact in Parliament today I think it's the end of the road for him. Labour need to be strong in opposition once the ERG have their PM in place in the summer.

Absolutely agree, however unfortunately the cult that is Momentum can't see it.
 




Leas

New member
Dec 3, 2011
115
Janice Ann Atkinson is an independent Member of the European Parliament for the South East England region
 


Blackadder

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 6, 2003
16,077
Haywards Heath
Janice Ann Atkinson is an independent Member of the European Parliament for the South East England region
And we should believe her because? (Please don't say because she put a video on social media).

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