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[Politics] Brexit
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Pretty pink fairy
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Think you might have slipped up there. whoops.
Yeah I meant October
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DR
Pretty pink fairy
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"Suggests", vague at best, to much speculation if you ask me, seeing is believing
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QUOTE=Mouldy Boots;8960026]Like I have said in the past to survive in this world we have to be adaptable and not one dimensional, it's good to be out of the comfort zone, no one ever achieves their potential in this zone. So go out and explore and that precisely what we will be doing under Brexit, we will grow as a nation and have some control over our destiny.
Sorry to say but this is simplistic blue sky claptrap....
How exciting.
I hope you will not flaunt your excitement too much; I am sure you will bump into people whose lives are considerably worse as a result of this disaster-in-waiting and that wouldn't be very emotionally intelligent of you.
Why the hatred for the Eton boys it's not their thought they had wealthy parents, I have mixed with all types over the years, and generally, the mega-rich with their feet on the ground are a great bunch, yes you have a few self-made w++kers around but you also have some average earners who are w++kers.
Only the rich 'entitled' Eton boys who are leading this country towards ever greater division and chaos; more Johnston that Stewart
I judge on personality more than wealth.
Fair enough. Then your judgement in this instant is impaired
Sorry to say but this is simplistic blue sky claptrap....
How exciting.
I hope you will not flaunt your excitement too much; I am sure you will bump into people whose lives are considerably worse as a result of this disaster-in-waiting and that wouldn't be very emotionally intelligent of you.
Why the hatred for the Eton boys it's not their thought they had wealthy parents, I have mixed with all types over the years, and generally, the mega-rich with their feet on the ground are a great bunch, yes you have a few self-made w++kers around but you also have some average earners who are w++kers.
Only the rich 'entitled' Eton boys who are leading this country towards ever greater division and chaos; more Johnston that Stewart
I judge on personality more than wealth.
Fair enough. Then your judgement in this instant is impaired
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Thunder Bolt
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Three MPs have sought a Judicial Review as to why the Met Police have sat on corruption charges against three leave campaigns, as recommended by the Electoral Commission. This is alleged criminal behaviour.
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Baldseagull
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You have understood that is an average per UK household, it is a bit crude but more meaningful than x Millions for the country I feel. What would you suggest as a fairer way of informing us how much worse off we are?
That's not strictly accurate. The ERG are about 50 strong. There have been 3 'meaningful' votes. The first two would have still been lost by the government even if every ERG member had voted for the deal.
Baldseagull
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They did, however George Osborne was aiming to deliver a budget surplus by 2020, but after the result of the referendum, he said that this was no longer achievable. Brexit didn't put us on an austerity budget, but it is keeping us on it.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
There are more than 50. It is suspected there are more than 70, and others who agree with their aims.
https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit/erg-brexit-group-members-jacob-rees-mogg-explained/
The Remain side put forward a compromise. Norway. It was dismissed as "not Brexit" by unicorn-chasers and shameless opportunists who had promoted it only weeks before.
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I'll cope with it fine, thank you. I am not sulking at all. I am not going to leave the country, and I am already getting on with my life, just as I have been every day for the last 3 years.
It's you that's the sad to55er in all this.
Baldseagull
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I am not your intended respondent, but the EU has a set of emergency measures they are ready to put in place for between 3 and 9 months, this is to stop them having a truly shit time after the treaties cease to exist, but it will serve us to some extent too. I think if we can stick it out beyond that, without begging for the withdrawal agreement to be enacted, there will be a series of bi-lateral agreements to cover all of those things, and in the long run we will end up with a relationship with the EU very similar to Switzerland's, which will likely include free movement of people and goods, and involve our Parliament having to have a vote on every new piece of EU legislation. Voting against adopting any new legislation that would fall within the areas of a bi-lateral agreement will result in a failure of that agreement and some loss of function to us, effectively a sanction.
This is OK though because it is real sovereignty when our Parliament has to vote yes, because sanctions will be imposed if they don't.
What happens to the 39 billion?
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
The problem with the Swiss bi-lateral agreements is they've taken decades to evolve and end up where they are with them as things stand today and as pointed out above, we're still liable for the £39 Billion. The unintended scraps thrown our way from The EU's contingencies are not nearly enough for us to properly function and the longer we attempt to stick it out, the more damage and bad blood caused, the more the ill-feeling there will be toward us. Never mind the internal domestic existential and constitutional fires that will break out, perhaps quite literally in the case of Northern Ireland, not to mention Scotland. Aside from the triumph of the pre-announced procession of 90 lorries and a dustcart down the M20 on a Monday morning in January and a clapped out dredger bobbling about doing nothing off Ramsgate, The EU know we're not prepared on our side in the slightest and the figure of '3 weeks' is unchanged as far I know from when I last read it as to how long they're assuming we'll last if no deal happens.
Baldseagull
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Uncertainty is certainly a problem, Brexit has uncertainty built in though. Just leaving offers no certainty at all, as even if you have a stated intention to strike a trade deal with the U.S. before doing any bi-lateral deals with the E.U. or vice versa, the outcome of those won't be known for years.
Thunder Bolt
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ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
The other thing with 'no deal in October' v 'no deal in March' is nationally warehouse and storage capacity will not be at the same available levels due to the run up to Christmas being well under way, so no deal stockpiling capability will be greatly reduced. I'm sure Boris Johnson has got that one covered and knows the score. 
Thunder Bolt
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I've asked Leavers for benefits of leaving the EU. I have never had a coherent answer.
I am prepared to post the benefits of being in the EU. Here is just two I found today.
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I am prepared to post the benefits of being in the EU. Here is just two I found today.
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Baldseagull
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We will pay it.