father_and_son
Well-known member
Not the right way to go about changing someone's viewpoint, is it?
Instead of 'outrage' and vicious retaliation, why can't people just say 'You're wrong pal. This is why you're wrong - because.. "
That's the trouble these days. We get spoon fed a viewpoint then whipped up into such a frenzy that if anyone dare counter it they end up being hung, drawn and quartered with some kind of mob mentality. I was being driven (in a very slow moving traffic jam) in a left hand drive car at the time the huge media thing was on about being on the phone whilst driving. I was on the phone in the passenger seat (which in the UK is the drivers seat, of course) and some old geezer almost had a coronary thrombosis waving his arms around, effing this and effing that, making cut throat gestures and w**k*r signs, making phone call gestures, spittle flicking from his gritted teeth in a blind fury.
I pointed to the empty dashboard in front of me and changed his tune, but you'd have thought I was beheading a kitten with a pen knife the way he was acting. He was 'outraged' on behalf of the wider world, clearly. I will state again that the car never got above a slow walking pace.
All I'm saying is that instead of shooting the OP between the eyes, just educate him? If he's not prepared to listen, or doesn't want to know, then maybe he can then be adjudged a tosser - but at least give him the chance first.....
Others have posted their "because of..." tales and mine is elsewhere on this website, so it isn't like I am not willing to engage in the discussion/education around the issues of mental health.
However, what had been lacking was some honest reality. Generally people want to tip toe around this subject, even when trying to be open or explain the situation. It is a taboo and it is very deeply ingrained in the generation that most of us here are, men in particular and the British culturally. However, sometimes some CJTC needs to understand that what they say has very real consequences and impacts real people in a real way.
The OP has, in my opinion shown himself to be amongst the lowest of the low. Racists, sexists and homophobes all have a name, but the prejudice and willful dismissal of those who have suffered or are suffering from the darkest of soul-eating conditions need to be called out in the same way you would a racist or a homophobe.
Sorry if that doesn't meet the "they just don't understand, let's educate them" agenda. [MENTION=15278]Beach Seagull[/MENTION] is a f**king sh*t.
You have made a reasoned argument for your case and I do respect your opinion most of the time but on this point I would ask for a little latitude to offer an alternative reaction to those that had already been presented.
