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South west gull

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Just seen bbc news has a new TV studio refit what was wrong with the previous set ?

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clapham_gull

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Aug 20, 2003
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Nothing, but the BBC is good at pissing money up the wall. Like Eastenders, Mrs Brown's Boys etc etc.

It can do, but news is quite a commodity these days to be sold abroad, particularly the "magazine" element which is big business.

They've just merged the news departments so I'd imagine whatever it cost will be paid off quite quickly by international sales.

If you've ever watched local news abroad, it's not surprising operators like to have Sky and BBC on their services. I'm a huge fan of Sky News, particular Press Preview which I have on series link.

Pretty much everything else is either trying to see the presenter through on screen graphics or terrible virtual studios a ZX Spectrum would be ashamed of.

Both great British exports taking it very seriously and we should be proud of them.
 
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Weststander

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It can do, but news is quite a commodity these days to be sold abroad, particularly the "magazine" element which is big business.

They've just merged the news departments so I'd imagine whatever it cost will be paid off quite quickly by international sales.

If you've ever watched local news abroad, it's not surprising operators like to have Sky and BBC on their services. I'm a huge fan of Sky News.

Pretty much everything else is either trying to see the presenter through on screen graphics or terrible virtual studios a ZX Spectrum would be ashamed of.

Both great British exports taking it seriously and we should be proud of them.

Does your insight into the Beeb cover radio as well?

Genuinely, I think R4 is astonishingly good, virtually every minute of it. I’d pay the licence fee for R4 alone.

Does R4 as a ‘profit centre’ cover it costs?
 


clapham_gull

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Aug 20, 2003
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Does your insight into the Beeb cover radio as well?

Genuinely, I think R4 is astonishingly good, virtually every minute of it. I’d pay the licence fee for R4 alone.

Does R4 as a ‘profit centre’ cover it costs?

No idea, but radio is very very cheap compared to TV. I'm not sure it's saleable because it's effectively free.

I used to be a every morning Today programme listener, when it got the big interviews but binned it years ago. Still listen to R4, however I'm now a huge fan of Radio 5 Live.

I also love LBC. It's got that name of the cab drivers station of choice, but in reality it's incredibly mixed politically. Unashamedly "bias" from presenters, but the balance is preserved by the callers.

You've have of course arch pro EU James O'Brien in there, but also Farage and Rees Mogg. Throw in some nut job Covid conspiracy presenters they had to dump

They get the fascinating interviews (and debates) time and time again, that you'd never hear in the BBC because (my understanding) LBC are allowed a different interpretation of balance via OfCom.

The James O'Brien v Farage and James O'Brien v Rees Mogg debates are well worth a listen.
 
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Weststander

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No idea, but radio is very very cheap compared to TV. I'm not sure it's saleable because it's effectively free.

I used to be a every morning Today programme listener, when it got the big interviews but binned it years ago. Still listen to R4, however I'm now a huge fan of Radio 5 Live.

I also love LBC. It's got that name of the cab drivers station of choice, but in reality it's incredibly mixed politically. Unashamedly "bias" from presenters, but the balance is preserved by the callers.

You've have of course arch pro EU James O'Brien in there, but also Farage and Rees Mogg. Throw in some nut job Covid conspiracy presenters they had to dump

They get the fascinating interviews (and debates) time and time again, that you'd never hear in the BBC because (my understanding) LBC are allowed a different interpretation of balance via OfCom.

The James O'Brien v Farage and James O'Brien v Rees Mogg debates are well worth a listen.

A long term fan of LBC here. The JO’B clashes are etched in my mind, as are his ‘deconstructions’ of Trump fanboys and Covid deniers. All gold, saved in my youtube comedy library. Fogarty is a very kind person/presenter.

But I haven’t listened to LBC since Fascist Putin invaded Ukraine. Only for the reason that for my mental wellbeing I cap the awful news entering my brain. I stay fully au fait with events, but once each time is enough. R4 and music is currently my thing.

Regarding R5, Nicky Campbell’s callers prog after 9 has always been brilliant, callers get a decent chance to tell their story. Making it 2 hours long is nectar. NC is another lovely person. @HWT is also a fan :)
 








A1X

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Nothing, but the BBC is good at pissing money up the wall. Like Eastenders, Mrs Brown's Boys etc etc.

Aren't you confusing "pissing money up the wall" with "funding stuff I don't like"? Only there is a pretty major difference.

Pissing money up the wall would be spending a shed load of cash on something nobody actually wants to watch, such as a documentary on the history of Crystal Palace FC. But I would suggest, given the viewing figures, absolutely loads of people want to watch Eastenders and Mrs Brown's Boys. You don't. I don't. But I also realise the BBC is not put in place purely to cater to my tastes and my tastes alone.
 




Bakero

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Oct 9, 2010
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No idea, but radio is very very cheap compared to TV. I'm not sure it's saleable because it's effectively free.

I used to be a every morning Today programme listener, when it got the big interviews but binned it years ago. Still listen to R4, however I'm now a huge fan of Radio 5 Live.

I also love LBC. It's got that name of the cab drivers station of choice, but in reality it's incredibly mixed politically. Unashamedly "bias" from presenters, but the balance is preserved by the callers.

You've have of course arch pro EU James O'Brien in there, but also Farage and Rees Mogg. Throw in some nut job Covid conspiracy presenters they had to dump

They get the fascinating interviews (and debates) time and time again, that you'd never hear in the BBC because (my understanding) LBC are allowed a different interpretation of balance via OfCom.

The James O'Brien v Farage and James O'Brien v Rees Mogg debates are well worth a listen.

Although I'm aligned with JOB on most issues, I find his personality incredibly off-putting. The smirk, the little laugh, the tone. I must admit I've only seen the odd video clip of his show but based on those, it's not for me.
 




rippleman

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Oct 18, 2011
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Does your insight into the Beeb cover radio as well?

Genuinely, I think R4 is astonishingly good, virtually every minute of it. I’d pay the licence fee for R4 alone.

Does R4 as a ‘profit centre’ cover it costs?

I listen to Today and often PM on R4 (and other non-news progs) and I have never understood why they need to have so many presenters. I understand the "specialists" (political editor etc) but why do they need to employ someone to read the weather, someone else to read the sport as well as two main presenters (on Today). Surely the two presenters can just read those bulletins to reduce costs?

The other oddity is why farmers get their own programme. Why farmers? Why not "Nursing Today" or "Accountanting Today"? Why is it only farmers who get their own programme so they can whine on about why life's so hard?
 






Weststander

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I listen to Today and often PM on R4 (and other non-news progs) and I have never understood why they need to have so many presenters. I understand the "specialists" (political editor etc) but why do they need to employ someone to read the weather, someone else to read the sport as well as two main presenters (on Today). Surely the two presenters can just read those bulletins to reduce costs?

The other oddity is why farmers get their own programme. Why farmers? Why not "Nursing Today" or "Accountanting Today"? Why is it only farmers who get their own programme so they can whine on about why life's so hard?

Tradition.

But you're dead right, my Dad always said that farmers are perennial moaners.
 


Weststander

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Although I'm aligned with JOB on most issues, I find his personality incredibly off-putting. The smirk, the little laugh, the tone. I must admit I've only seen the odd video clip of his show but based on those, it's not for me.

He's a patronising, arrogant bully, but I must admit I love the entertainment when he clashes with imho ********s with damaging views. It doesn't have to be right-wingers (that becomes oh so predictable), as he's had great rows with Momentum/Corbyn Starmer-haters, also Covid deniers and followers of Icke's fiction.
 


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