Spot on, not in the slightest bit surprising from a nation overloaded with uneducated brainwaashed knuckle draggers. At least the majority never leave their own state for fear of falling off the edge.
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[News] American mass shootings
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Spot on, not in the slightest bit surprising from a nation overloaded with uneducated brainwaashed knuckle draggers. At least the majority never leave their own state for fear of falling off the edge.
Tyrone Biggums
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And where exactly are they going to fact check to discover that inequality hasn't grown enormously in all advanced economies over the last 2 or 3 decades, opportunities for youngsters abound and that the environment is in fine fettle
Over here businesses are closing down because they can't find staff. It's an employees market. That's visible every where. Never seen so many businesses with signs on their windows looking for workers.
Yet all those opportunities are being passed over because many (not all) young people seem to have a terrible work ethic and want the easiest way to money possible.
Inequality up, work ethic down?
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HellBilly
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"Politicians recognise this a problem almost unique to America, where guns have overtaken car crashes as the leading cause of death for children and teenagers"
Just take that in for a minute....
Just take that in for a minute....
- Jul 10, 2003
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So you are suggesting that they should use the ramblings of people such as yourself and what you think is happening in your town to 'fact check' whether rising inequalities and opportunities are real or not across the advanced economies, and whether there are looming environmental issues.
Okey doke. I'll let this thread get back on topic
100% correct. It is definitely a cultural problem. That said, they need to do something about that culture, and perhaps temporary draconian measures on fire arms would be a start.
Indeed - mental health issues don't manifest themselves in the form of gun massacres elsewhere. Other countries have different cultural problems, but in the USA an unstable inadequate can make himself feel like a big man by shooting innocent people.There are many other countries where people have big mental health issues - and where healthcare is not great. I don't see regular gun massacres anywhere else, though
I feel for the 90% of Americans who want change - it highlights how flawed their democratic system is. (I don't think ours is a whole lot better, mind)
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Bold Seagull
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Heaven forbid previous generations ever wanted an easier way to money possible. Or pensions. Job security. Job satisfaction. Career prospects. A few signs in local shop windows forms a global view. Funny. At least you can blame the young for being feckless. Certainly not your problem.
These shooters have many different backgrounds and sick reasons. Similarly Michael Ryan and Thomas Hamilton here. It can be racist, Alt-Right, off-gridders against Big Government, revenge for being bullied at school, revenge for being shunned as a paedo, ‘political’, ‘religious’, and/or egged on by an dark-web community of haters. In common, they’re evil.
How did thread morph into the stereotypical have and have-nots row, with a UK accent?
How did thread morph into the stereotypical have and have-nots row, with a UK accent?
METALMICKY
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- Jan 30, 2004
- 6,106
Just checked my supply of ' thoughts and prayers ' and was empty. Tragically cynical I know but we'll have all the usual posturing and words but nothing will change. God bless America eh!
BadFish
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- Oct 19, 2003
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They should be banging down the door for those minimum wage zero hours contracts. Lazy ********!!
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Tyrone Biggums
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So you are suggesting that they should use the ramblings of people such as yourself and what you think is happening in your town to 'fact check' whether rising inequalities and opportunities are real or not across the advanced economies, and whether there are looming environmental issues.
Okey doke. I'll let this thread get back on topic
Well they could listen to you and your doom and gloom and think the world is ****ed ramblings.
That'll do them well.
Lyndhurst 14
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- Jan 16, 2008
- 5,135
Every time there is an incident like this all the news channels spend hours pontificating on the motive - crazy loner, bullied kid, white supremacist etc. They always ignore the elephant in the room, the means, the ridiculously easy access to guns and assault rifles.
I remember going into a book store in NYC and the adult magazines were in brown wrappers on the top shelf whilst the easy access middle shelves were full of a different type of porn, gun magazines. Talk about screwed up priorities.
I remember going into a book store in NYC and the adult magazines were in brown wrappers on the top shelf whilst the easy access middle shelves were full of a different type of porn, gun magazines. Talk about screwed up priorities.
If an entire generation behaves in a certain way it is obviously a systematic failure. You're saying there is nothing wrong with the system, the young people are at fault - but who creates the beliefs and the ideas of the youth?
Kids realise early that there are three options:
1. You become some kind of greedy bloodsucking w*nker inventing some shitty tech company or taking the risk on some crypto currency or whatever, become filthy rich and increase your wealth the Amazon way - not paying your workers enough to make a living, or buy a lot of property and raise rents to make more money while those you're abusing will struggle to get by.
2. You "work hard" and "make sacrifices" (also known as sacrificing your life to create profits to the people in the first category) to barely be able to make a living and perhaps, if you're really frugal, you'll be able to buy a house when you've worked hard for 30 years. No time for family, no time for play, just endless work to make ends meet so you can afford a house (partially through the help of a loan that you will then spend the rest of your life working equally hard to pay off).
3. You look at the options above and think "you know what, I can't become a vampire and I don't want to be a modern day slave" and give up.
Work ethic for the older generation is to knuckle down and work hard because the advantages were imaginable and within reach, something that is increasingly difficult when costs rise more than wages, because those who are rich wants to make even more profits than they did in the past. How is this not a systematic flaw?
Older generations have always moaned about the lazy youth. Well, maybe it is because you're failing to understand how the world change. You're proud and self-victimizing at the same time and simply can not understand how the game has changed because it would disturb the narrative that you're much better and had it a lot worse
schelotto than the lazy youths of today.But the game did change. If you had grown up in a society where the value of your work is always decreasing and any change it could make to your life is always 30 years away, and society demands you to be connected to a world where smug celebrities and Elon Musks are able to psychosodomise you 24/7 about how they made money from doing **** all, you'd understand that society and the systems it is built on is seriously flawed. But you don't want that. You want to think that the system is perfect and that the real difference is that you are better than the struggling youngsters.
Danny Wilson Said
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It's easy to trot out accusations such as 'Americans love their guns more than they love their children' but as someone who has worked in the USA it is things such as you describe - the normalisation of mass gun ownership - which is the shocking thing. And it can never be changed while so many legislators are funded by the gun lobby. Campaign donations from the National Rifle Association to senators and members of the House are frightening.
portlock seagull
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- Jul 28, 2003
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This. In Georgia you now don’t even need a permit, they passed this new law only recently so if anything things are going backwards in some states. I was always shocked how you could go round a store with a trolley and buy weapons whilst stocking up on groceries. Surprised they don’t have them at the checkout alongside chewing gum at this rate “Anything else Sir?”, “Yes, I’ll take a Bazoka please…” (and not the gum we bought as kids in the 70s’)
Yep.
There is someone I have on ignore on NSC who ten years ago argued that it was common sense that the best way to deal with gun crime at schools was to ensure that all teachers are armed. It isn't just pickup truck-driving yahoos who think like this. In America it as normal as believing the earth dropped out of god's arse six thousand years ago.
There is literally nothing, no amount of children's blood spilled, that will change the mindset.
Tyrone Biggums
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If an entire generation behaves in a certain way it is obviously a systematic failure. You're saying there is nothing wrong with the system, the young people are at fault - but who creates the beliefs and the ideas of the youth?
Kids realise early that there are three options:
1. You become some kind of greedy bloodsucking w*nker inventing some shitty tech company or taking the risk on some crypto currency or whatever, become filthy rich and increase your wealth the Amazon way - not paying your workers enough to make a living, or buy a lot of property and raise rents to make more money while those you're abusing will struggle to get by.
2. You "work hard" and "make sacrifices" (also known as sacrificing your life to create profits to the people in the first category) to barely be able to make a living and perhaps, if you're really frugal, you'll be able to buy a house when you've worked hard for 30 years. No time for family, no time for play, just endless work to make ends meet so you can afford a house (partially through the help of a loan that you will then spend the rest of your life working equally hard to pay off).
3. You look at the options above and think "you know what, I can't become a vampire and I don't want to be a modern day slave" and give up.
Work ethic for the older generation is to knuckle down and work hard because the advantages were imaginable and within reach, something that is increasingly difficult when costs rise more than wages, because those who are rich wants to make even more profits than they did in the past. How is this not a systematic flaw?
Older generations have always moaned about the lazy youth. Well, maybe it is because you're failing to understand how the world change. You're proud and self-victimizing at the same time and simply can not understand how the game has changed because it would disturb the narrative that you're much better and had it a lot worse
But the game did change. If you had grown up in a society where the value of your work is always decreasing and any change it could make to your life is always 30 years away, and society demands you to be connected to a world where smug celebrities and Elon Musks are able to psychosodomise you 24/7 about how they made money from doing **** all, you'd understand that society and the systems it is built on is seriously flawed. But you don't want that. You want to think that the system is perfect and that the real difference is that you are better than the struggling youngsters.
You seem to be making plenty of excuses there.
My Grandparents went through a Depression and a World War.
There was no work, then there were millions upon millions dying in an horrific war. They didn't grow up in some paradise. That life was brutal.
And yet listening to them I learned many valuable lessons. The advice they gave was sound and sensible.
Still works well today.
If we had grown up in a society where the value of your work is always decreasing you ask?
Hey champ, many of us grew up in a society where our job skills and experience saw us made redundant by technology. And that's relevant for people in their late 40's and 50s.
No system is perfect, who is even saying that? No doubt if you suggested a system people could pick holes through that too.
Any person including you and I is only as good as we make ourselves. Relying on any shit arse Politician to make your life better is a waste of time.
Lyndhurst 14
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- Jan 16, 2008
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There has also been a huge rise in ghost guns which can be legally purchased on line. These are guns which are supplied in parts and sent by post where they are assembled by the purchaser.
They have no serial number so are untraceable
They have no serial number so are untraceable
Thunder Bolt
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mikeyjh
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Quite - And people will bang on that you can guns in whichever country easy enough etc etc but as you rightly point out, you can't get semi-automatic rifles with high volume magazines, bullet proof jackets and limitless amo by popping down to B&Q. You can't buy a semi-automatic rifle back from big Dave in some dark alley and then bring it home on the bus.